[DYNAMICS] Acceleration as a function of position.

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The discussion revolves around solving for acceleration given initial conditions, including initial velocity and radius of curvature. The user initially struggles with the equation v^2 = -0.25s^2, realizing it leads to a negative square root, which is not feasible. Suggestions are made to redefine constants and clarify variable meanings to avoid confusion. After reworking the equations, the user successfully derives the correct values for tangential and normalized acceleration, ultimately confirming the final acceleration as 9.66 m/s^2. The collaborative effort leads to a successful resolution of the problem.
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Homework Statement



Initial velocity = 17 m/s
Radius of curvature = 13 m
Acceleration as a function of position = -0.25s m/s^2
Time elapsed = 2 s

Solve for the magnitude of the acceleration.

Homework Equations



a = v (dv/ds)

a^2 = a(t)^2 + a(n)^2, wherein a(t) is tangential acceleration and a(n) is normalized acceleration.

The Attempt at a Solution



a*ds = v*dv

int(-0.25s*ds) = int(v*dv)

v^2 = -0.25s^2

From this point I have hit significant difficulty, as you cannot take the square root of a negative number. Presumably there is another method to solve this equation that I have neglected, but it hasn't occurred to me, and my professor is notoriously poor at returning emails. Any thoughts?
 
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Brevity said:
v^2 = -0.25s^2

From this point I have hit significant difficulty, as you cannot take the square root of a negative number.
Shouldn't that be

1/2 v^2 = c - 0.25s^2

where c is a constant of integration. Assuming c is greater than .25s^2, then 1/2 v^2 is positive.

Also, you might consider using another name for position or distance, to avoid confusion since s is often use to represent time in seconds.

1/2 v^2 = c - 0.25 d^2
 
rcgldr said:
Shouldn't that be

1/2 v^2 = c - 0.25s^2

where c is a constant of integration. Assuming c is greater than .25s^2, then 1/2 v^2 is positive.

Also, you might consider using another name for position or distance, to avoid confusion since s is often use to represent time in seconds.

1/2 v^2 = c - 0.25 d^2

Understood. It would then be 1/2 v^2 = C - 0.125 d^2, would it not? Let me try it out.
 
Brevity said:
Understood. It would then be 1/2 v^2 = C - 0.125 d^2, would it not? Let me try it out.

Unless I have misinterpreted something horribly, this was my process:

s denotes position.
t denotes time.

-0.25s ds = v dv
C -0.125s^2 = 1/2 v^2
When s = 0, v = 17.
C = 1/2 (17)^2
C = 144.5
144.5 - 0.125s^2 = 1/2v^2
289 - 0.25s^2 = v^2
v = sqrt(289 - 0.25s^2)
ds / dt = sqrt(289 - 0.25s^2)
(289 - 0.25s^2)^(-1/2) ds = dt
2*sin^-1(0.029412s) = t
t = 2
s = 34sin(1)
s = 28.61

v = sqrt(289 - 0.25s^2)
v = sqrt(84.367)
v = 9.185

a(n) = v^2 / ρ
v = 9.185
ρ = 13
a(n) = 6.48956

a(t) = -0.25s
s = 28.61
a(t) = -7.1525

a = sqrt(a(n)^2+a(t)^2)
a = sqrt(42.114+51.1583)
a = 9.66

The answer was correct!

Many thanks to you.
 
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