Dynamics - Relative velocities in rigid bodies

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The discussion revolves around calculating the angular velocity of connecting arm OA and the speed of point A in a system involving two gears with different angular velocities. Gear 1 has an angular velocity of 20k rad/s, while Gear 2 has -10k rad/s, with the radii of the gears being 0.3 m and 0.2 m, respectively. The solution involves understanding the no-slip condition at the contact point between the gears, leading to the conclusion that the angular velocity of arm OA is 8 rad/s, resulting in a speed of 4 m/s for point A. The importance of clear problem statements and visual aids in understanding dynamics problems is emphasized. Overall, the correct application of relative velocity concepts is crucial for solving such rigid body dynamics problems.
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Homework Statement



Point O is fixed in space. Gear 1 has an angular velocity of 20k rad/s, and Gear 2 has an angular velocity of -10k rad/s. r1 = 0.3 m and r2 = 0.2 m. What is the angular velocity of the connecting arm OA, and what is the speed of A?

Gear 1 is larger than Gear 2. Gear 1 is connected to point O and Gear 2 is connected to point A.

Homework Equations



vA=vO + (wOA x rA/O)

The Attempt at a Solution



w2=w1 + w2/1
-10k=20k+w2/1
w2/1=-30k

vA=vO+(wOA x rA/O)
vA=0 + -30k x .5i
vA= -6j m/s

The correct answer is 4j m/s. I think I am using the right equations but I am not fully understanding the concept of relative velocity when different bodies are in effect. Can someone please explain this problem to me? Thank you.
 
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kdm06 said:
Can someone please help me?

No reply so far could have been because your problem was not very clear! I did have a hard time understanding it. You nowhere mentioned where is A? A figure should have made things easier.

From the question and your attempt at solution, this is what I have been able to figure out: The two gears are touching each other externally! (Note that, they could have been independent as well.)
Furthermore, I have also assumed that the angular velocities provided for each of the gears are about their own axes, not w.r.t. the fixed ground. Of course, since O is fixed, w1/O = w1/G = 20k rad/s. Here, 1 refers to gear 1 and G refers to ground reference. But, A is not fixed. Thus, w2/A = -10k rad/s, which is not equal to w2/G. Now, we are required to find wA/O, angular velocity of A w.r.t. O (which will also be equal to wA/G).

Now to find wAO, note that there is no slip at contact point. Let us call contact point P. (The point on gear 1 be called P1 and the point on gear 2 be called P2.)
For no-slip condition at P, velocity of P1 must be equal to velocity of point P2.
vP1/O = vP2/O.

Now, vP1/O = w1/O X rP1/O.
And, as vP2 = vA/O + vP2/A,
=> vP2/O = wA/O X rA/O + w2/A X rP2/A.

{ X stands for vector cross product, and letters in bold refer to vector quantities. }

Now, without loss of any generality, we can assume that P is a point on x-axis. (Note, all angular velocities are in k direction.
Then, vP1/O = 6j m/s,
and, vP2/O = (O.5*wA/O + 2)j m/s.
Wherefrom, wA/O = 8 rad/s.
Thus, wA/O = 8k rad/s.

And, vA/O = wA/O X rA/O = 4j m/s.

Thus, vA/O = 4 m/s.

Note: Try to put up clear questions.
 
Thank you so much. I'm sorry I didn't have picture because it was confusing. I just don't know how to put a picture on here. I'll try next time. Thank you.
 
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