Easy Trig question that is ridiculously hard

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The discussion revolves around solving a trigonometry problem involving an isosceles triangle ABC with equal angles of 50 degrees and a circle of radius 2 cm touching its sides. Participants suggest drawing additional lines to create triangles and using properties of angles and tangents to find the length of side BC, which is given as 8.58 cm. There is confusion regarding angle labeling and the correct application of sine and cosine formulas, with some users proposing alternative methods involving tangent calculations. The importance of accurately identifying angles and utilizing the triangle's geometric properties is emphasized. Ultimately, the solution hinges on understanding the relationships between the triangle's angles and the circle's dimensions.
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The picture speaks for itself, can anyone explain to me how to do this, they put it near the start of my book and i keep coming back to it yet no sine or cosine formulae etc... can help, please :)
 

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sponsoredwalk said:
The picture speaks for itself, can anyone explain to me how to do this, they put it near the start of my book and i keep coming back to it yet no sine or cosine formulae etc... can help, please :)

Start by drawing more lines on an accurate drawing. Draw a line from where the circle intersects the left line, down to where it intersects the middle of the BC line. Look at the triangle that is formed by that line and the angle B. You know B is 50 degrees, you know the two other angles are equal (to what?). Now look at the corresponding angles inside the circle for a triangle from the center of the circle out to those two points -- what are the angles in that circle? Now can you start filling in some of the distances needed?
 
(From the book:
In the isosceles triangle ABC, the equal angles at B and C are each 50'. The sides of the triangle each touch a circle of radius 2cm.
Calculate the length BC.
This question comes from chapter 3 and a barely newfound knowledge of sine (soh) and cosine (cah) is expected to explain this. The answer is 8.58cm although i really can't understand how it was accomplished.

I've attached an attempt in picture form, using this logic i continue and use the sine formula but get a wrong result for BC, idk what to do to get 8.58cm.
 

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sponsoredwalk said:
(From the book:

This question comes from chapter 3 and a barely newfound knowledge of sine (soh) and cosine (cah) is expected to explain this. The answer is 8.58cm although i really can't understand how it was accomplished.

I've attached an attempt in picture form, using this logic i continue and use the sine formula but get a wrong result for BC, idk what to do to get 8.58cm.

The angles are labeled wrong. The angles of a triangle add up to 180 degrees. How can one angle be 50 degrees, and the other two angles be 100 degrees apiece?
 
And your drawing does not show a circle in the middle. Is it a circle?
 
Here is another approach. Call the center of the circle O. You know the 2 cm radius of the circle bisects BC. Call that intersection Z. Draw a line from O to C. You now have a triangle OZC. Can you can find the angle OCZ? You know OZ is 2 cm. From the defination of Tangent angle you can find ZC. Twice ZC is BC. It might be helpful to draw a line segment from O to the intersection of the circle and segment AC and indentify all the measures of the interior angles. The answer is indeed 8.58 cm.
 
Do you know that the intersection of the symmetric lines of the angles create the center of the circle?

I do not find this problem hard to solve.

Here is picture:

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just use tan and find BC/2.

Regards.
 
i should have tried it myself, taking tan25'=2/x but i had thought if it and said no to myself, well thanks a lot u've made my day lol :)
 
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