Eccentricity & GR precession; Mercury vs. GPB

In summary: As far as I know (backed up by a quick look at Rindler "Essential Relativity"):For a given orbital angular momentum, GR precession is not affected by the eccentricity. However, if you consider alternative orbits with varying eccentricity which have fixed semi-major-axis a instead of a fixed angular momentum, the precession is proportional to 1/a(1-e2).The general (approximate) expression for the precession angle per orbit is:6 pi (Gm/c^2)/(a(1-e2)).This is the relativistic correction to the precession angle formula.
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Eccentricity & GR precession; Mercury vs. GP-B

How big a factor is the Eccentricity of Mercury orbit in contributing to its precession?

GR precession has been confirmed in the Gravity Probe B orbit even though it has an eccentricity of zero. The GP-B used a gyroscope to take the place of a detectable aphelion, while Earth has a nearly circular orbit with an eccentricity of 0.016 it gives measurable aphelion that allow modern observations the ability to see the small precession undetectably to 19 century astronomers.

Is it the large orbit eccentricity of 0.205 that gives Mercury such a large and easier to notice precession of 43 ArcSec/century?
I assume by moving up and down between different levels of GR curved space the effect on precession is magnified.

Does anyone have a reference to show or explain what how or what part of the GR formulas account for the eccentricity contribution?

If Mercury orbit was a more circular eccentricity of 0.01 what would the precession be?

If eccentricity is doubled to 0.41 is there some function to describe how much the precession would increase?
 
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RandallB said:
How big a factor is the Eccentricity of Mercury orbit in contributing to its precession?

GR precession has been confirmed in the Gravity Probe B orbit even though it has an eccentricity of zero. The GP-B used a gyroscope to take the place of a detectable aphelion, while Earth has a nearly circular orbit with an eccentricity of 0.016 it gives measurable aphelion that allow modern observations the ability to see the small precession undetectably to 19 century astronomers.

Is it the large orbit eccentricity of 0.205 that gives Mercury such a large and easier to notice precession of 43 ArcSec/century?
I assume by moving up and down between different levels of GR curved space the effect on precession is magnified.

Does anyone have a reference to show or explain what how or what part of the GR formulas account for the eccentricity contribution?

If Mercury orbit was a more circular eccentricity of 0.01 what would the precession be?

If eccentricity is doubled to 0.41 is there some function to describe how much the precession would increase?

As far as I know (backed up by a quick look at Rindler "Essential Relativity"):

For a given orbital angular momentum, GR precession is not affected by the eccentricity. However, if you consider alternative orbits with varying eccentricity which have fixed semi-major-axis a instead of a fixed angular momentum, the precession is proportional to 1/a(1-e2).

The general (approximate) expression for the precession angle per orbit is:

6 pi (Gm/c^2)/(a(1-e2)).

(I tried to show the general expression in TeX but that seems to be broken at the moment, in that preview processing showed something completely different).
 
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Jonathan Scott;1968996The general (approximate) expression for the precession angle per orbit is: 6 pi (Gm/c^2)/([I said:
a[/I](1-e2)).

Thought there was a pi^3 in the precession angle formula; or is that the relativistic correction to this...
 

1. What is eccentricity and how does it affect the precession of Mercury and GPB?

Eccentricity is a measure of how elliptical an orbit is. In the case of Mercury and the GPB (Gravity Probe B), it refers to the eccentricity of their orbits around the Sun. A high eccentricity means that the orbit is elongated, while a low eccentricity means that it is more circular. The eccentricity of an orbit can affect the precession, or the gradual change in the orientation of the orbit, of a planet or satellite.

2. Why is the precession of Mercury's orbit significant in terms of Einstein's theory of general relativity?

The precession of Mercury's orbit is significant because it was one of the first pieces of evidence that supported Einstein's theory of general relativity. Before Einstein, scientists believed that the precession was caused by the gravitational pull of other planets. However, Einstein's theory predicted a slightly different amount of precession, which was later confirmed by observations. This provided strong evidence for the validity of general relativity.

3. How does the precession of Mercury's orbit compare to that of the GPB?

The precession of Mercury's orbit is significantly greater than that of the GPB. This is due to the difference in their eccentricities - Mercury's orbit is much more elliptical, leading to a larger precession. The GPB, on the other hand, has a very low eccentricity, resulting in a much smaller precession.

4. What factors can affect the precession of a planet or satellite?

Aside from eccentricity, the precession of a planet or satellite can also be influenced by other factors such as the mass of the object, its distance from the body it is orbiting, and the distribution of mass within the object. In the case of Mercury and the GPB, the precession is also affected by the curvature of spacetime, as predicted by general relativity.

5. How do scientists measure the precession of Mercury and the GPB?

Scientists use a variety of techniques to measure the precession of Mercury and the GPB. For Mercury, they use telescopes and observations of the planet's position in the sky over time. For the GPB, they use gyroscopes to measure tiny changes in the orientation of the satellite over time. These measurements are then compared to predictions based on known factors, such as eccentricity and mass, to determine the amount of precession.

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