Egg drop experiment with a twist

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The discussion revolves around a physics class's egg drop experiment using a bungee cord, where the goal is to calculate the necessary cord length to minimize ground contact. The participant struggles with applying energy conservation equations and integrating the force function of the bungee cord. Suggestions include using the modulus of elasticity for easier calculations or correctly defining the limits of integration based on the bungee's extension. The importance of accurately defining variables and visualizing the problem through diagrams is emphasized. The participant plans to try integrating the force function to find a solution.
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Hello,
My physics class is doing the classic egg drop experiment, but with a different twist.
We are asked to find the length of the bungee cord needed given a mass and a height to drop it from. The success of the lab is determined by how close we can get to the ground without touching.
We are using a single bungee cord, and not multiple bungees.
This is a common question here, but I haven't been able to determine the equations to use to determine what I need.

I have tried using U1 + K1 = U2 + K2 +Uspring
Where U1 is the initial potential energy (mgh1)
K1 is the initial kinetic energy (K1 = 0)
U2 is the final kinetic energy (mgh2 with h2 being the closest distance off the ground)
K2 is the final kinetic energy (K2 = 0)
And Uspring is the integral of Force with respect to distance F(x) from 0 to the unstretched bungee length - h2

Our F(x) function is 2.823 - 6.696x + 31.64x^2 - 110.9x^3 + 177.3x^4 - 103.3x^5
This is the characteristic that our bungee follows.

Using this, I get the correct value, if the egg wasn't dropped, but rather if the egg was just hanging there.

My question is, what am I doing wrong? and what equations/principles could I use to determine the length of the string that I need?
 
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Are your limits in your integral correct? Think about how you have defined x.
 
Zatman said:
Are your limits in your integral correct? Think about how you have defined x.

Should I define it from the unstretched length to the height off the ground? I know that the integral gives me the work done by the bungee, so it would make sense, but I am out of the lab now, and have no way of testing this.
 
I would imagine you have x defined as the extension of the string, but I don't really know where your equation for F(x) has come from so I can't tell if this is the case or not.

Do you know the modulus of elasticity, \lambda, of the string? If yes then you can just use

E.P.E = \frac{\lambda e^2}{2l}

where e is the extension. This would be a lot easier and you woudn't need to use an integral.

If you don't know \lambda then assuming your equation for F(x) is correct with x as the extension, you would want to integrate over the entire extension, i.e. x=0 to the distance from where the string first goes taut to the bottom, h_1 - h_2 - l, where l is the natural (unstretched) length of the string. Draw a diagram to help you see this. :)
 
Thank you. I will try this and see if it works. Unfortunately I don't know the modulus of elasticity, but I will try integrating it :)
 
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