Electric field a spherical surface

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The discussion revolves around finding the electric field of a spherical surface using an alternative approach to the book's solution. The user attempts to apply Coulomb's law for surface charge but encounters discrepancies in their results compared to the book. They express confusion about their notation and seek clarification on their method, particularly regarding the integration of cosine and sine functions. Other participants suggest using Gauss's law as a simpler solution and highlight potential errors in the user's approach. The user ultimately seeks to understand where their method went wrong while acknowledging that Gauss's law is a more straightforward technique.
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Hello
i want to solve this problem via another approach
question:
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Book Solution:
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my approach:
Coulomb's law for surface charge:
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as we know the filed point is a fix point and i set the name of h instead of z
(r is in spherical coordinate and haz in cartesian)
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so
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ar in spherical coordinate is equal to below statement in cartesian

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as we know the intergral of Cos(phi) and Sin(phi) in a total period of phi is equal to zero so the main Integrals can be simplified to the following expression:

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i seprate the above integral to two statement

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the below intergal because of is equal zero

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so the output is that is different between this way and the book solution

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what is my problem? and how can find the electric filed in out and in of spherical surface via this approach?

Thanks
 
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Well, there's the posted solution's hard way and then there's your hard way (don't know what you did wrong).
Then there's the easy way: Gaussian surface, which you should invoke since the problem does not force you to do it the hard way. Just ignore the hint - completely!
 
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I am having trouble understanding your notation. Can you clarify what ##\vec{as}## is? It seems to me that you are trying to write the electric field in vector notation. If so, the vector notation is:
$$\vec{E}=\frac{q}{4\pi\epsilon \,\,r^3}\,\vec{r}$$
Notice that its ##r^3## in the denominator.

And yes, Gauss law is a nice way to solve the problem but I guess the problem requires you to take the harder approach.
 
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Pranav-Arora said:
I am having trouble understanding your notation. Can you clarify what ##\vec{as}## is? It seems to me that you are trying to write the electric field in vector notation. If so, the vector notation is:
$$\vec{E}=\frac{q}{4\pi\epsilon \,\,r^3}\,\vec{r}$$
Notice that its ##r^3## in the denominator.

Hello dear user
thanks for your response.
yes gauss law is a shortest way to find the electric filed of this question.but i want to know what is my wrong in this approach that i get different answer?

$$\vec{E}=\frac{q}{4\pi\epsilon \,\,r^3}\,\vec{r}$$
yes \vec(as) is equal to \vec(ar).in electrodynamic of david giriffts he set different char to avoid confusion with ar in spherical and cylindrical coordinates.
 
Hello
i want to know my approach is wrong or i do some mistake?
Thank you
 
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