Electric field lines from a moving charged particle

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of an electric field traveling at the speed of light and poses a thought experiment involving a proton appearing in a vacuum and its effect on a stationary electron. The conversation also raises the question of how the electron would react if the proton was in motion. However, the appearing proton violates the laws of electrodynamics, making the question impossible to answer. The conversation also acknowledges that the concept of "where the proton was one second ago" is not always exact due to relativistic considerations and the presence of a magnetic field.
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The electric field emanating from charged particle travels at the speed of light; fine. To pose an unrealistic thought experiment (a more realistic, if more complicated, thought experiment could replace this one, but the unrealistic one gives the idea), if a proton were to suddenly pop into existence at a certain time T in a vacuum, and a stationary electron were situated 300,000 km away (and nothing else in the vicinity), then after one second, at time T+1 (ignoring the difficulty in synchronizing watches ), the electron would start to move towards the proton (and vice-versa, of course) in a straight line between the electron and proton. So far, so classic. However, if that proton is moving, would the electron at the moment T+1
(a) start to move toward the position the proton was at time T, or
(b) with a sort of quantum-eraser retroactive effect move toward the position the proton would be at time T+1?
(ignoring the effect of any magnetic field created by the moving proton)
Thanks in advance.
 
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The appearing proton violates the laws of electrodynamics (charge conservation). It does not make sense to ask what physical laws predict in a situation where the laws are violated.

"Where the proton was one second ago" is a better description, but it is not always exact.
 
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Thanks for the reply, mfb.
mfb said:
The appearing proton violates the laws of electrodynamics (charge conservation). It does not make sense to ask what physical laws predict in a situation where the laws are violated.
This is why I inserted the caveat that one could certainly make up a Gedankenexperiment which did not violate the laws of physics but which got the idea across. My experiment was in the spirit of 3:40-5:20 of Greene's . I could have perhaps better simply asked the question without thought experiment in this way: "assuming it makes sense to talk about the velocity and straight-line path of the carriers of the electric field, then it makes sense to ask about that path as a straight line between two space-time points. Are these points separated in time as would be expected in a classical theory, or not?"
mfb said:
"Where the proton was one second ago" is a better description, but it is not always exact.
I presume that is the answer to my question, despite its impossibility. I also presume that the lack of exactitude you refer to is due to relativistic considerations, not to mention the magnetic field. Any further corrections will be appreciated.
Thanks again.
 

1. What are electric field lines from a moving charged particle?

Electric field lines from a moving charged particle are lines that represent the strength and direction of the electric field surrounding the particle as it moves through space.

2. How are electric field lines from a moving charged particle different from those of a stationary charged particle?

Unlike the field lines of a stationary charged particle, the electric field lines from a moving charged particle are curved and change direction as the particle moves due to the effects of its motion on the surrounding electric field.

3. Why do electric field lines from a moving charged particle curve?

Electric field lines from a moving charged particle curve because the particle's motion causes a change in the direction and strength of the electric field, resulting in the curvature of the field lines.

4. How can the speed and direction of a charged particle be determined from its electric field lines?

The speed and direction of a charged particle can be determined by analyzing the curvature and direction of the electric field lines. The closer the lines are together, the stronger the electric field, and the direction of the lines indicates the direction of the electric field.

5. What is the significance of studying electric field lines from a moving charged particle?

Studying electric field lines from a moving charged particle can provide insights into the behavior of charged particles and their interactions with electric fields. This knowledge is crucial in many areas of science, such as electromagnetism and particle physics.

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