Electric Force problem -> Infinite charged plane with hole

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The problem involves an infinite charged plane with a hole, characterized by a charge density (σ) of 10nC/m². The goal is to determine the electric force acting on a proton located at point P=(0,0,10cm).

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using the electric field formula E=σ/2ε₀ and the force equation F=Eq. Some express uncertainty about the implications of the hole in the plane, while others suggest considering the hole as a combination of positive and negative charges. Different methods for calculating the force are proposed, including using Coulomb's law and geometric reasoning.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with various approaches being explored. Some participants have offered guidance on how to conceptualize the problem, particularly regarding the effects of the hole in the charged plane. There is no explicit consensus on a single method, but multiple interpretations are being examined.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the absence of examples in textbooks that specifically address the scenario of a charged plane with a hole, which raises questions about the assumptions and definitions being applied in this context.

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Electric Force problem --> Infinite charged plane with hole

The plane is infinite charged. It has a charge density (σ) of 10nC/m^{2}. If R=5cm, determine the electric force of a proton in the point P=(0,0,10cm).

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MY set UP:
I was thinking about using E=σ/2*ε_{o}
and use F=Eq.
I can see problems in the book with the infinite charged plane, but they don't have a hole thru it... PLEASE HELP>>>!
 
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moonrkr said:
The plane is infinite charged. It has a charge density (σ) of 10nC/m^{2}. If R=5cm, determine the electric force of a proton in the point P=(0,0,10cm).

eje2.jpg

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MY set UP:
I was thinking about using E=σ/2*ε_{o}
and use F=Eq.
I can see problems in the book with the infinite charged plane, but they don't have a hole thru it... PLEASE HELP>>>!

Consider the hole as a combination of positive and negative charges.
 


You can face this problem at least in two ways:
1) Calculate explicitly the force with the Coulomb expression \vec{F}=\frac{q_1q_2}{4\pi\epsilon r^2}
2) Solve the problem "geometrically": how do you build a charged plane with a hole? You can think either \vec{F}_{positively\,charged\,plane\,with\,hole}=\vec{F}_{positively\,charged\,plane\,without\,hole}-\vec{F}_{field\,of\,the\,hole} or \vec{F}_{positively\,charged\,plane\,with\,hole}=\vec{F}_{positively\,charged\,plane\,without\,hole}+\vec{F}_{negatively\,charged\,hole}

Both ways, you should be careful, because the symmetry of the problem allows you to do powerful simplifications on the components of the forces acting on the proton.
 


Force of the hole - Force of the plane (without hole) = Force of the entire setting(plane with hole)?
 

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