Electric Potential Energy of electron orbits

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The discussion focuses on calculating the change in electric potential energy (EPE) when an electron and a proton are brought together to form a hydrogen atom. The potential energy formula used is PE = kq1*q2/r, where k is the Coulomb's constant, and q1 and q2 are the charges of the electron and proton. The participants clarify that the initial potential energy at an infinite distance is zero, and they compute the final potential energy using the given average distance of 5.43 * 10^-11 m. The final calculation yields an EPE of -4.24 * 10^18 J. The conversation concludes with confirmation of the correct answer and encouragement.
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An electron and a proton are initially very far apart (effectively an infinite distance apart). They are then brought together to form a hydrogen atom, in which the electron orbits the proton at an average distance of 5.43 * 10-11 m. What is EPEfinal - EPEinitial, which is the change in the electric potential energy?

I have no idea where to start
 
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nckaytee said:
An electron and a proton are initially very far apart (effectively an infinite distance apart). They are then brought together to form a hydrogen atom, in which the electron orbits the proton at an average distance of 5.43 * 10-11 m. What is EPEfinal - EPEinitial, which is the change in the electric potential energy?

I have no idea where to start

Isn't the potential energy given by PE = kq1*q2/r

If EPE at infinity is 0, then ... The change is ...
 
In my notes I have \Delta E.P.E of electron = q(Vb-Va) = (-e)(Vb-Va)

I am really not getting this


Im sorry, I might have something here... One minute..
 
Okay I am confused
 
nckaytee said:
In my notes I have \Delta E.P.E of electron = q(Vb-Va) = (-e)(Vb-Va)

I am really not getting thisIm sorry, I might have something here... One minute..

What is the charge of an electron and a proton?

Wikipedia said:
e = –1.602176487(40) × 10–19C
p = 1.60217653(14)×10−19 C
 
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So, would it be...

(-1.6*10^19)(0 - 5.43 *10^-11)
 
nckaytee said:
So, would it be...

(-1.6*10^19)(0 - 5.43 *10^-11)

It's the product of both charges.

PE = kq1*q2/rAnd check the exponent of the charges. And don't forget k.
 
Okay, so I did PE = [(9*10^9)(-1.6*10^-19)(1.6*10^-19)] / 5.43*10^-11

My answer is right! -4.24 * 10^18

Thank you
 
nckaytee said:
Okay, so I did PE = [(9*10^9)(-1.6*10^-19)(1.6*10^-19)] / 5.43*10^-11

My answer is right! -4.24 * 10^18

Thank you

You're welcome.

And don't act so surprised. You had it nailed from kqq/r.

Good luck.
 
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