How Do Proton and Alpha-Particle Speeds Affect Their Closest Approach Distance?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the distance of closest approach between a proton and an alpha-particle, both initially traveling at 0.01c. The user attempts to equate the kinetic energy of the system to the potential energy but arrives at an incorrect distance. Another participant suggests that the user may have made an error in their calculations, urging them to double-check their values and algebra. The correct answer for the closest approach is stated to be 19.2 femtometers (fm), highlighting the importance of accurate calculations in physics problems. The conversation emphasizes the need for careful verification of inputs in such calculations.
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Homework Statement


A proton and an alpha-particle are fired directly toward each
other from far away each with an initial speed of 0.01c.
Determine their distance of closest approach measured between
their centres.

Homework Equations


See below.

The Attempt at a Solution



What I did was..

Kinetic Energy of the system = Potential Energy of the system
(.5*mp*v2) + (.5*mHe*v2) = k*qp*qHe / r
and then I solved for r, which gave me an incorrect answer.

What am I doing wrong?

I am just wondering.. could you please try this question and tell me what you get?

I get 1.16*105...
which is not the correct answer..

The correct answer is 19.2 fm.;;;
 
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erinec said:

Homework Statement


A proton and an alpha-particle are fired directly toward each
other from far away each with an initial speed of 0.01c.
Determine their distance of closest approach measured between
their centres.


Homework Equations


See below.


The Attempt at a Solution



What I did was..

Kinetic Energy of the system = Potential Energy of the system
(.5*mp*v2) + (.5*mHe*v2) = k*qp*qHe / r
and then I solved for r, which gave me an incorrect answer.

What am I doing wrong?

I am just wondering.. could you please try this question and tell me what you get?

I get 1.16*105...
which is not the correct answer..

The correct answer is 19.2 fm.;;;
Let's start by giving the relevant masses:
m_{He} = 6.64 \times 10^{-27} kg
m_{p} = 1.67 \times 10^{-27} kg
Charge:
q_{He} = 3.2 \times 10^{-19}C
q_p = 1.6 \times 10^{-19} C
Physical Constants:
k =9\times 10^9 \frac{N m^2}{C^2}
c = 3\times 10^8 m/s
Doing some algebra and plugging in these values I get something on the order of 10-16 m. Are you sure you plugged everything in correct?
 
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