Electricity, Gauss law concept question

In summary, the conversation discusses the idea that a region bounded by a closed surface with no charge does not necessarily mean that the electric field is zero everywhere on the surface. This is because while the electric flux may be zero, the electric field can still vary depending on the type of surface. In some cases, such as a spherical surface, the electric field can be constant and therefore zero. However, in other cases, such as a capacitor, the electric field may not be zero even though the flux is.
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A certain region bounded by an imaginary closed surface contains no charge. Is the electric field always zero everywhere on the surface? If not, under what circumstances is it zero on the surface.

I think it is zero everywhere because as the electric field is entering the closed surface, it is also leaving so, therefore the Net electric field is zero. I am not really sure though
 
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Larrytsai said:
A certain region bounded by an imaginary closed surface contains no charge. Is the electric field always zero everywhere on the surface? If not, under what circumstances is it zero on the surface.

I think it is zero everywhere because as the electric field is entering the closed surface, it is also leaving so, therefore the Net electric field is zero. I am not really sure though

Gauss' law talks about the electric flux, and if there are no charges inside the closed surface, there is no net flux in or out. But that's different from the electric field. Think about a closed surface that is suspended between the plates of a capacitor. What is the E field like?
 
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I guess it depends on the the type of surface. But berkeman is right only net flux is zero. However, depending on surface you could conclude sometimes that E is zero. example, if the surface is sphere. than gauss law says Q = 1/epsilon(surface int.) of Edot ds. If it is a surface integral over sphere, you know that Edotds = E. and it is constant over sphere(keeping in mind you drew the gaussian surface properly) And alternatively: the surface int. turns into E*A = 0 --> E = 0.

However in capacitor the surface integral just yields: E*(top surface) - E*(bottom surface) = flux = 0

this u cannot conclude E = 0; because left most equation is inconclusive.
 

Related to Electricity, Gauss law concept question

1. What is electricity?

Electricity is a form of energy that results from the movement of charged particles, such as electrons. It can be generated by various sources, such as friction, chemical reactions, or electromagnetic induction, and it is essential for many modern technologies and daily activities.

2. How does electricity flow?

Electricity flows through a conductor, such as a wire, when there is a potential difference between two points in the conductor. This potential difference, also known as voltage, causes the charged particles to move from higher to lower potential, creating an electric current.

3. What is Gauss law in electricity?

Gauss law is a fundamental concept in electromagnetism that relates the electric field to the distribution of electric charges. It states that the net electric flux through a closed surface is equal to the total amount of enclosed electric charge.

4. How is Gauss law applied in real-life situations?

Gauss law has various practical applications, such as in the design of capacitors, which store electric charge, and in understanding the behavior of electric fields around conductors and insulators. It is also used in the analysis of electric circuits and in the calculation of the electric field of a point charge or a charged sphere.

5. What are the limitations of Gauss law?

Gauss law is based on the assumption of a static electric field, which means it does not apply to situations where the electric field is changing over time. It also does not take into account the effects of magnetic fields, which are important in many electromagnetic phenomena. Additionally, it is a macroscopic law and may not accurately describe the behavior of individual charged particles at the atomic level.

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