Electrochemistry Question, Galvanic/Daniel Cell

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The discussion centers on a simple electrochemical setup involving zinc and copper plates connected to a speaker, with filter paper soaked in zinc sulfate (ZnSO4) and copper sulfate (CuSO4) placed between them. Participants are investigating a black substance that forms on the zinc plate over time, speculating that it could be copper reduced from the solution. The conversation raises questions about the mechanism of copper reduction and precipitation on the zinc plate, particularly considering that the cells are separated by cellophane. The presence of current suggests that ions are indeed passing through the cellophane, prompting further exploration of how this process occurs and the nature of the black substance observed.
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Using a very simple set up with high school kids,

Zinc Plate
*on*
Filter paper soaked in ZnSO4
*on*
cellophane
*on*
Filter paper soaked in CuSO4
*on*
Copper Plate
*in*
Petri Dish

Copper and zinc plate connected to a speaker. I know the process involved and the equations. Not using a salt bridge. After a while on the base of the Zinc plate there is a build up of a black substance and for the life of me i can't tell what it is.
Any ideas what it is?
 
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I won't be surprised if it is copper reduced on zinc. It doesn't have to be red, at least not initially.
 
Where does the copper come from?
The cells are separated by the cellophane... how would the copper reduce and percipitate UP onto the zinc plate? is this possible?
 
If there is current flowing, it means ions pass through the cellophane, there is no other way.
 
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