Electromagnet & Magnetic field range in milliseconds?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of constructing an electromagnet capable of generating a magnetic field of 1 to 5 Tesla within milliseconds. Participants explore the challenges related to resistance, inductance, cooling methods, and the implications of coil design on performance.

Discussion Character

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  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the possibility of building a fast-acting electromagnet, noting that typical designs take 2 to 5 seconds due to high resistance and inductance.
  • Another participant suggests that while it is possible to create a weaker electromagnet without extensive cooling, it would not achieve the desired strength.
  • A participant inquires about alternative cooling methods, such as air cooling or heat sinks, to avoid the tediousness of water cooling.
  • It is noted that for a high-power electromagnet, a larger coil with more turns is necessary, which impacts the rise time of the magnetic field.
  • Concerns are raised about the heat generated by increased current requirements and the need for effective heat dissipation strategies.
  • Another participant questions whether increasing the number of turns would actually slow down the magnetic field's rise time and discusses the power requirements for such a magnet.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility of creating a fast electromagnet and the effectiveness of various cooling methods. There is no consensus on the best approach or the implications of coil design on performance.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully explored the assumptions regarding the relationship between coil size, number of turns, and rise time of the magnetic field. The discussion also lacks detailed analysis of the power requirements and cooling efficiency for different designs.

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How is it possible to build an electromagnet(magnetic field of 1 - 5 Tesla) that could create the magnetic field in milliseconds or less? Electromagnet designs that I found would have high resistance & inductance, creating a field in 2 - 5 seconds. Although, they would consume 15 - 20kW of power.

And would require 1 liter of water/min for cooling, can an electromagnet be built without having all that cooling?
 
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PhiowPhi said:
And would require 1 liter of water/min for cooling, can an electromagnet be built without having all that cooling?

yes, but it just wouldn't be as strong
 
Would it be possible to build such an electromagnet? And that fast...? Why would it be weaker?
I find using water for cooling is going to be a bit tedious, can't air cooling be used? Or heat sink transferring?
 
for a high power electro magnet
the coil must be larger ( more turns etc) -- this affects the rise time of the of the magnetic field
The larger the coil and the stronger the magnetic field, the more current that is required and that is going to generate lots of heat
thus better types of heat dissipation needs to be considered
 
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Wouldn't more turns means the time would be slower?
Having heat reduced can be solved possibly with air(fans) or maybe similar to the idea of heat sinks, what about the power required for such a magnet?
 

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