Electrostatic Potential in Electric Fields

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves four charged particles positioned at the corners of a square, with two positive and two negative charges. The discussion focuses on calculating the electrostatic potential and electric field at the center of the square for two different arrangements of the charges.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the potential and electric field at the center of the square, with initial thoughts on cancellation of effects due to symmetry. Questions arise regarding the nature of electric field strength and how to express answers without numerical values.

Discussion Status

Some participants have confirmed initial thoughts about the potential being zero in Arrangement 1. Others are engaging with the mathematical aspects, discussing the calculation of distances and vector representations of electric fields. There is an ongoing exploration of how to visualize and calculate the electric field vectors.

Contextual Notes

Participants express challenges in focusing on the problem during a holiday period, and there is mention of needing to express answers in terms of variables rather than specific numbers.

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Homework Statement


1. Four charged particles are held fixed at the corners of a square of side s. All the charges have the same magnitude Q, but two are positive and two are negative. In Arrangement 1, shown below, charges of the same sign are at opposite corners. Express your answers to parts a and b in terms of the given quantities and fundamental constants.
a. For Arrangement 1, determine the following.
i. The electrostatic potential at the center of the square
ii. The magnitude of the electric field at the center of the square
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2. The bottom two charged particles are now switched to form Arrangement 2, shown below, in which the positively charged particles are on the left and the negatively charged particles are on the right.
b. For Arrangement 2, determine the following.
i. The electrostatic potential at the center of the square
ii. The magnitude of the electric field at the center of the square
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Homework Equations


V = PE / q


The Attempt at a Solution


1) I am thinking the the potential at the center, as well as the electric field strength, is zero, since the positives and negatives cancel each other out.
 
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Arrangement 1: Correct!

Electric field strength is a vector or a scalar?
 
vector; I am not sure how to express my answer for arrangement 2 with the variables (i get frightened without numbers!)
Thanks
 
Plot 4 vectors, one for every electric field strength. The magnitude of each field is

[tex]E=k\,\frac{|Q|}{r^2}[/tex]

can you calculate the distance r, from the enter to each charge?
 
using the Pythagorean theorem, would r = sqrt(1/2) x s ? or am i going in the completely wrong direction? its really hard to focus on this stuff during christmas break :)
 
Actually [tex]r=\sqrt{\frac{s}{2}}[/tex] since it's side is s.

Did you plot the vectors at the center?
 
yes, would it be like this? (attached .gif)
Picture 1.gif
 
If there are 4 vectors, two pointing at the one [tex]-Q[/tex] charge and two more pointing at the other [tex]-Q[/tex] charge it is correct!

I can't see the attachment yet! :smile:
 

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