EM radiation appearing to travel faster than C

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In discussions about electromagnetic radiation and its apparent faster-than-light behavior, a phenomenon related to waveguides and anomalous dispersion is highlighted. While phase velocity can exceed the speed of light (C), the crucial point is that information is transmitted at group velocity, which remains at or below C. This distinction clarifies that no actual information travels faster than light, despite the mathematical implications. The conversation reflects a curiosity about the implications of phase velocity on information transmission. Understanding these concepts requires further contemplation of the underlying physics.
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I just had a flashback to an applied electromagnetic course I took a few years ago. I believe we were learning possibly about waveguides (maybe) or something, but there appeared a phenomenon in the math that made it appear as if the wave was traveling faster than C.

When asked about it, the professor said this is a sort of 'trick' because actually the information was not traveling faster than C, so it is allowed by the universe.

I sort of took it for granted at the time and accepted his explanation (it's not the first time I can remember hearing of it) but if anyone knows what I'm talking about I would be grateful to be reminded, now that I have developed a taste for information theory.
 
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I think you are talking about the phenomenon of anomalous dispersion. In this case the phase velocity of the light can be greater than c. However, information is propagated at the group velocity, not the phase velocity. The group velocity is always <= c.
 
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Interesting... I am curious to try to think of how you could transmit information at phase velocity, > c.
Changing the phase velocity does not transmit information faster than information can travel via the group velocity? I will have to ponder the physics for awhile I suppose when I get the chance, thanks for reminding me.
 
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