Energy consumption for cooling and average temperature

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the energy consumption of air conditioners in relation to different ambient temperature conditions. Participants explore how constant versus fluctuating temperatures affect energy usage, particularly in a scenario where humidity is not a factor.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether energy consumption would be the same for a constant temperature of 78 degrees compared to fluctuating temperatures between 90 and 60 degrees, seeking a defensible conclusion.
  • Another participant suggests that the nature of heat loss, defined by the temperature difference (Delta T) between the inside and outside, is crucial in understanding energy consumption.
  • A third participant notes that an air conditioner operates more efficiently at lower temperature differences and implies that total cooling amounts may be similar, but efficiency curves of AC units could influence outcomes.
  • One participant emphasizes that the internal environment's insulation plays a significant role, suggesting that in well-insulated homes, external temperatures may have less impact on indoor conditions than factors like human activity and appliances.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying viewpoints on the influence of temperature fluctuations and insulation on energy consumption, indicating that no consensus has been reached regarding the original question.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight undefined terms and variables, such as the efficiency curve of the air conditioning unit and the degree of insulation, which may affect the discussion's conclusions.

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Good Morning,

First, let me preface my question by stating that I do not have a background in physics so my question my or may not be ignorant. I simply have a curiosity and I am having trouble finding any results.

My question is regarding air conditioners and cooling energy usage. Given an environment where humidity was not a factor, if ambient air temperature was a constant 78 degrees 24 hours a day for 30 days, and the indoor air conditioner was temperature was set to 74, would the same energy be consumed by the air conditioner as another 30 day period with an average temperature of 78 where the temperature fluctuated from the 90's to 60's causing the unit to work harder some of the time, and not at all during other times? This may not be enough information and again I am only looking for a general direction on how to come to a conclusion that can be defensible.

Thanks!
 
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you're right that it is difficult to be exact with such variables, and some not defined, but imho we only need consider the nature of heat loss (change) between an internal and an external environment. At 90 degrees the Delta T between the internals of the house and the outside is 12 degrees. while at a constant 78 the Delta T is only 4 degrees. If you think of it like filling a tub with the drain uncorked perhaps it will make more sense since at some point the "water" introduced is equal to or less than the "water" leaving and the tub will not fill.

The drain size is the key and in cooling that drain is Delta T and the insulation between the two.
 
If the temperature is in the 60s, is the unit in heating mode?

In general, an air conditioner is more efficient at a lower temperature difference. If you are suggesting equal total amounts of cooling, the answer to your question still will depend on the shape of the efficiency curve of your AC unit. It will be close to equal though.
 
I think it is being forgotten that we are not cooling (or heating) the outside temperature directly. We are cooling an internal environment that at least in the real world has insulation. If that insulation were extreme the temperature inside would rarely change at all due to outside temperatures. I have seen hi efficiency homes in which the heat from human bodies and running appliances was far more important a factor than outside temps. This is what I meant by undefined terms. The question/problem as posed cannot be answered definitively.
 

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