Entropy -- prove it increases for irreversible process

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The discussion centers on proving that the change in entropy (S2 - S1) is greater than zero for an irreversible throttling process. Participants reference the Entropy Rate Balance for Control Volumes and emphasize the irreversible nature of the throttling process as a key factor. One user suggests that a previous thread already addressed this question and inquires about any dissatisfaction with that explanation. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding entropy changes in thermodynamic processes. Overall, the focus remains on clarifying the principles behind entropy in irreversible processes.
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hi all,

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this is Entropy Rate Balance for Control Volumes.

in the case of throttling process,


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.throttling process is irreversible process, so (S2- S1) must be greater than zero.

what i want to know is to prove that (s2-s1) is greater than zero.

Thank you in advance.
 

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jangseok seo said:
hi all,

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this is Entropy Rate Balance for Control Volumes.

in the case of throttling process,


View attachment 83652.throttling process is irreversible process, so (S2- S1) must be greater than zero.

what i want to know is to prove that (s2-s1) is greater than zero.

Thank you in advance.
I thought we had already answered this question in the following thread: https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/throttling-process.814170/#post-5112310. Were you dissatisfied with the explanation given in that thread? If so, what was it that you disagree with?

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