Equilibrium with the string in the center exactly horizontal

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The discussion focuses on applying equilibrium conditions to analyze a string in the center of a system. Participants emphasize the need to establish three equations based on force and moment balances to solve for the tensions (T1, T2, T3) and angle (θ). There is a debate over whether to sum forces on each side of the string, with some suggesting that the moment equation can be treated like a force balance for a taut string. It is noted that the equations can be decoupled to find tensions from the free body diagram (FBD) of each knot. Overall, the conversation highlights the importance of correctly applying equilibrium principles to solve the problem effectively.
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Homework Statement
Find
Tension T1
Tension T2
Tension T3
Relevant Equations
Obtain on the left weigs 40N and on the right 50N
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A few things to get you started:

Consider the piece of string in the middle and apply the equilibrium conditions for it. So it will be
$$\sum F_x=0$$$$\sum F_y=0$$ $$\sum M=0$$
So you will have 3 equations and 3 unknowns (##T_1,T_{3x} , T_{3y}##. You can find angle by ##\tan\theta=\frac{T_{3x}}{T_{3y}}##.

I think that ##T_2## will be equal to ##T_{3x}## or (##T_{1x}## ) not very sure about this.
 
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Shouldn’t you just sum the forces on each side of the second string. 4 eqs and 4 unknowns (T1, T2, T3, θ). I have no idea what a moment means for a string
 
caz said:
Shouldn’t you just sum the forces on each side of the second string. 4 eqs and 4 unknowns (T1, T2, T3, θ). I have no idea what a moment means for a string
Actually, the 4 equations are decoupled. One can find T1 and T2 from the FBD of the knot on the left and then find the rest from the FBD of the knot on the right.

@Mcmenhweilleisi : Please show us your work to get more help.
 
caz said:
Shouldn’t you just sum the forces on each side of the second string. 4 eqs and 4 unknowns (T1, T2, T3, θ). I have no idea what a moment means for a string
Well you apply the moment equation as the string was some sort of rigid body (since it is taut).

I think the two ways are equivalent, because the way I see the moment equation it is essentially a force balance equation e.g $$T_{3y}l-50l=0$$ where l the length of the second string.
 
Delta2 said:
I think the two ways are equivalent
Quite so.
We have one set of forces acting at one knot, and another set at the other knot.
Writing that the resultant of one set has no moment about the other knot is the same as writing that that resultant has no component normal to the string.
 
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