Equivalence principle to argue mass and weight are the same?

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The discussion centers on the equivalence principle, which posits that inertial mass and gravitational mass are the same. A YouTube video argues that this equivalence suggests mass and weight are fundamentally the same, despite weight being defined as a force dependent on gravity. Participants express confusion over this claim, emphasizing that mass remains constant regardless of gravitational influence, while weight varies with gravity. The distinction is highlighted by examples, such as a mass having weight only in a gravitational field. Overall, the conversation questions the validity of equating mass and weight based on the equivalence principle.
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Hi pf, I have recently watched a YouTube physics video from SixtySymbols channel which is a channel of short physics videos presented by professors of physics from Nottingham University. The video (pasted below) argues that because of inertial mass and gravitational mass being equivalent this provides an argument that mass and weight are the same thing? He ends the video by saying that if some smarty pants scientist tells you that mass and weight are different because weight is a force then you can tell them that fundamentally they are the same due to the equivalence principle. I really don't understand the connection. I have come across mass equivalence before and I understand what it is and understand his explanation of it in the video but what I don't understand is how this can be used to argue that mass and weight are the same? I was always taught by all my physics teachers that mass and weight are strictly different. For example, if you have a mass sitting far out from any gravitational field then it has no weight since the product of its mass and acceleration due to gravity is zero. However, it still definitely has mass so how can these two things ever be the same?

Link to video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSIuTxnBuJk&list=UUvBqzzvUBLCs8Y7Axb-jZewMany thanks for any help!
 
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Jimmy87 said:
For example, if you have a mass sitting far out from any gravitational field then it has no weight...

Congratulations, you answered your own question correctly.
 
anorlunda said:
Congratulations, you answered your own question correctly.

But if I'm right then why does a professor of physics argue otherwise?
 
His conclusion at the end of the video makes no sense to me either. For example: the mass of a bag of sugar is the same on the Earth and on the Moon, but the weight is different.

I don't follow his argument that the equivalence of inertial and gravitational mass leads to the equivalence of mass and weight.
 
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