Evaluating A Double Integral over a Rectangle

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The discussion revolves around evaluating a double integral over a specified rectangular region defined by the lines x - y = 0, x - y = 2, x + y = 0, and x + y = 3. The integral in question involves the expression (x + y)e^(x^2 - y^2) and requires a change of variables for simplification.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the change of variables u = x + y and v = x - y, discussing the rationale behind this choice. There are questions about the Jacobian and how to determine new bounds for integration after the variable change. Some participants express uncertainty about the integration process and the order of integration.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of the integration process, with some participants suggesting that the new bounds can be derived directly from the original boundaries. Guidance has been offered regarding the Jacobian and the implications of the chosen order of integration, but there is no explicit consensus on the final evaluation of the integral.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the specific boundaries of the region and the complexity introduced by the integral's form. There is also mention of the potential for different outcomes based on the order of integration chosen.

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Homework Statement


Let R be the rectangle bounded by x - y = 0, x - y = 2, x + y = 0, and x + y = 3. Evaluate

[itex]\int[/itex][itex]\int[/itex](x + y)ex2-y2dA
R

The Attempt at a Solution

First I rewrote the boundaries so that I could graph them more easily. I got y = x, y = x - 2, y= -x, and y = -x + 3. I was going to then integrate

[itex]\int[/itex](-1≤y≤0)[itex]\int[/itex](-y≤x≤y+2) ((x + y)ex2-y2) dx dy, and add that to,

[itex]\int[/itex](0≤y≤[itex]\frac{3}{2}[/itex])[itex]\int[/itex](y≤x≤-y+3) ((x + y)ex2-y2) dx dy

But then I realized I didn't even know how to integrate (x + y)ex2-y2. This leads me to believe I'm trying to do the wrong thing here. Suggestions?
 
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The problem is begging for you to do the change of variables u=x+y, v=x-y.
 
Okay. But why should I let v = x - y instead of v = x^2 - y^2?
 
TranscendArcu said:
Okay. But why should I let v = x - y instead of v = x^2 - y^2?

If you try it you'll see why it's a nice choice. One good reason is that you are given the limits in terms x+y and x-y. Factor x^2-y^2.
 
Okay. Supposing I let x=x+y and v=x-y, then I find that x = (u+v)/2 and y = (u-v)/2.

I think I need to find the Jacobian of this so,

J(u,v) = [x_u x_v]
*******[y_u y_v] (Excuse the ***; I don't know how to correctly format matrices).

I find this to be,

[1/2 1/2]
[1/2 -1/2].

And the absolute value determinant of this is 1/2.

But how do I go about finding new bounds to integrate over?
 
TranscendArcu said:
Okay. Supposing I let x=x+y and v=x-y, then I find that x = (u+v)/2 and y = (u-v)/2.

I think I need to find the Jacobian of this so,

J(u,v) = [x_u x_v]
*******[y_u y_v] (Excuse the ***; I don't know how to correctly format matrices).

I find this to be,

[1/2 1/2]
[1/2 -1/2].

And the absolute value determinant of this is 1/2.

But how do I go about finding new bounds to integrate over?

Did you look at the bounds? "bounded by x - y = 0, x - y = 2, x + y = 0, and x + y = 3"? I think that's really easy to translate into u and v.
 
Do I just plug in? If so, I get v=0 and v=2, and u=0 and u=3. This leads me to believe I can just integrate over a rectangle.

So I have the double integral from u=0 to u=3 and from v=0 to v=2 of (u)e^(vu) dv du. I multiply this by 1/2 because of the Jacobian I calculated earlier.

By "Q-substitution" (since I can't use "u" anymore) I will integrate with respect to Q, where Q=uv. This gives e^(uv)/2 evaluated from v=0 to v=2. So I have,

e^(2u)/2 - 1/2,

which I integrate with respect to u from 0 to 3. This gives

e^(6)/4 - 5/4

Look about right?
 
TranscendArcu said:
Do I just plug in? If so, I get v=0 and v=2, and u=0 and u=3. This leads me to believe I can just integrate over a rectangle.

So I have the double integral from u=0 to u=3 and from v=0 to v=2 of (u)e^(vu) dv du. I multiply this by 1/2 because of the Jacobian I calculated earlier.

By "Q-substitution" (since I can't use "u" anymore) I will integrate with respect to Q, where Q=uv. This gives e^(uv)/2 evaluated from v=0 to v=2. So I have,

e^(2u)/2 - 1/2,

which I integrate with respect to u from 0 to 3. This gives

e^(6)/4 - 5/4

Look about right?

It's 'about' right. I don't think you did the u integration quite right. Check it again.
 
Whoops, I meant to type e^(6)/4 - 7/4. How's that?
 
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TranscendArcu said:
Whoops, I meant to type e^(6)/4 - 7/4. How's that?

That's much better. At least that's what I get. You might notice that you lucked out by picking the order of integration to be first dv and then du. If you'd done it the other way around, it would look impossible. You can sometimes get what looks like an awful integral which gets a lot simpler if you reverse the order of integration. Just file that for future reference.
 

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