Evaluating double integral - jacobian help

In summary, the conversation discusses finding the limits for a double integral involving a coordinate transformation. After calculating the Jacobian, the discussion focuses on determining the new limits by drawing the region and identifying the "contour lines" of the new variables. It is determined that u goes from -infinity to infinity and v goes from 0 to infinity.
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Homework Statement



trying to evaluate the double integral from 0 to infinity and 0 to infinity of [(x^2 + y^2)/1 + (x^2-y^2)^2]e^-2xy dxdy

using the coordinate transformation u=x^2-y^2 and v=2xy



Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



so i calculated the jacobian which looks nice 4(x^2+y^2)..can see some canceling there

just can't see what the new limits will be...

thanks for any help
 
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Hi bon! :smile:

(have an infinity: ∞ and try using the X2 tag just above the Reply box :wink:)

When you're trying to find new 2D or 3D limits, just draw the region, and then mark it with the "contour lines" of the new variables.

In this case, the region is the whole first quadrant …

now draw some typical curves for u = constant and for v = constant …

check that (u,v) is single-valued, and just read off the diagram what the lowest and highest "contour lines" are. :wink:
 
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Ok thanks so i see that v goes from 0 to infinity...i just can't see u at the moment..

thanks
 
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u = 0 is the straight diagonal line …

what are the other curves for u = constant in the first quadrant? :wink:
 
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ahh hyperbolae..so would it be -infinity to + infinity?

thanks
 
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is this right?
 
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bon said:
ahh hyperbolae..so would it be -infinity to + infinity?

thanks

let's see …

each lower "hyperbola" is a quarter of a hyperbola, starting at the x-axis and finishing "at infinity", close to the diagonal …

so it goes from xy = 0 to xy = ∞ (and the same for the upper "hyperbolas").

So yes, x2 - y2 goes from -∞ to ∞, and for each value of x2 - y2, xy goes from 0 to ∞. :smile:
 
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great thanks
 

1. What is a double integral?

A double integral is an extension of a single integral, where instead of integrating over a single variable, we integrate over two variables. It represents the volume under a surface in three-dimensional space.

2. What is the purpose of evaluating a double integral using jacobian?

The jacobian is used to transform the coordinates of the double integral, making it easier to evaluate. It is particularly useful when dealing with non-rectangular regions or when the integrand involves multiple variables.

3. How is the jacobian calculated?

The jacobian is calculated by taking the determinant of the transformation matrix, which is formed by the partial derivatives of the new coordinates with respect to the old coordinates. This matrix is used to transform the integrand and limits of integration in the double integral.

4. What are some applications of evaluating double integrals using jacobian?

Double integrals with jacobian are commonly used in physics, engineering, and economics to calculate volumes, areas, and moments of inertia. They are also used in probability and statistics to calculate joint probabilities and expected values.

5. Is there a specific order in which the variables should be integrated in a double integral?

Yes, the order of integration can affect the outcome of the integral. In general, it is best to start with the variable that is easiest to integrate and then proceed to the next variable, keeping in mind any restrictions on the region of integration.

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