Expected value and joint probability density function

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The discussion revolves around finding the expected value of a random variable X, given that two random variables (X,Y) are uniformly distributed on a circle with radius a. The joint probability density function is provided, and participants are examining the appropriate limits for integration in the context of this probability distribution.

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  • Participants discuss the limits of integration for the expected value calculation, with one suggesting a specific double integral setup. Another participant proposes using polar coordinates as a potentially simpler approach.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and alternative methods for approaching the problem. There is no explicit consensus yet, but various interpretations and methods are being explored.

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There is an emphasis on the fact that the probability density function is nonzero only within the circle, leading to questions about the correct limits of integration. Participants are also considering the implications of using polar coordinates for the integration.

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Assume that two random variables (X,Y) are uniformly distributed on a circle with radius a. Then the joint probability density function is

f(x,y) = \frac{1}{\pi a^2}, x^2 + y^2 <= a^2
f(x,y) = 0, otherwise

Find the expected value of X.


E(X) = \int^{\infty}_{- \infty}\int^{\infty}_{- \infty}\frac{x}{\pi a^2} dxdy

Is this correct so far? What are the limits of the integral supposed to be?
 
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Since your pdf is nonzero only on the circle, I think this is what you want:
\int^{a}_{-a}\int^{\sqrt{a^2 - y^2}}_{- \sqrt{a^2 - y^2}}\frac{x}{\pi a^2} dxdy
 
I think this integral would be easier in polar coordinates.
 
kasse said:
Assume that two random variables (X,Y) are uniformly distributed on a circle with radius a. Then the joint probability density function is

f(x,y) = \frac{1}{\pi a^2}, x^2 + y^2 <= a^2
f(x,y) = 0, otherwise

Find the expected value of X.


E(X) = \int^{\infty}_{- \infty}\int^{\infty}_{- \infty}\frac{x}{\pi a^2} dxdy

Is this correct so far? What are the limits of the integral supposed to be?
No that is not correct because the limits of integration cannot be from -\infty to \infty. The probability outside the circle of radius a is 0, not 1/(\pi a^2).

In polar coordinates the integral would be
\frac{1}{\pi a^2}\int_r\int_\theta r cos(\theta) (r drd\theta)
and you want to cover the circle of radius a. What are the limits of integration for that?
 
Thanks!
 

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