Explaining the Difference Between 58deg N of E and E 58deg N

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The discussion centers on the interpretation of directional phrases "58deg N of E" and "E 58deg N," exploring their meanings in the context of navigation and compass headings.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the difference between "58deg N of E" and "E 58deg N."
  • Another participant explains that "58deg N of E" involves starting at East and turning 58 degrees anti-clockwise towards North.
  • A further clarification indicates that "58deg E of N" means starting at North and turning 58 degrees clockwise towards East.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of word order in understanding the two phrases, suggesting that both seem to imply a similar directional movement towards the northeast.
  • This participant questions what they might be missing in the interpretation of the two phrases, indicating a perceived similarity in their meanings.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the perceived similarity between the two directional phrases, with some asserting distinct meanings while others express confusion regarding their interpretations.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights potential ambiguities in language and interpretation of directional terms, with participants relying on their understanding of compass headings and navigation.

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I don't understand the difference between 58deg N of E and E 58deg N. Could someone please explain.
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Imagine the face of a compass. 58o N of E means that you start at E and then turn 58o anti-clockwise towards N. 58o E of N means that you start at N and then turn 58o clockwise towards E.
 
IOW; 58o N of E means 90o (E) - 58o = (a compass heading of) 32o, while 58o E of N means a compass heading of 58°.
 
Guys please look at the way the words in the two values are ordered. I realize 58deg E of N is different than 58 deg N of E. But that is not what I asked. Please read it again. To me the two values 58deg North of East and East 58deg North seem the same. The first one seems like you are heading east and then angle upward 58deg. The second one also seem like you are heading east and then you angle 58deg north. What am I missing?
 

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