Exponential Solution to Wave Equation

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the validity of different solutions to the wave equation, specifically comparing the standard cosine solution with an exponential solution. Participants explore the physical significance of these solutions and their applicability under various conditions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the validity of the exponential solution y(x,t) = exp(x+ct) for the wave equation, noting that it does not physically represent wave behavior due to the lack of amplitude oscillation.
  • Another participant states that any function of the form f(x-ct)+g(x+ct) is a solution to the wave equation, suggesting that exponentials are less commonly used because they often do not satisfy boundary or initial conditions.
  • A participant suggests that plane waves, represented by sines and cosines, are more frequently studied as they can be combined to form a broader set of solutions, particularly through Fourier transforms.
  • One participant proposes that if the wave is along a rope, the boundary conditions would dictate the values of y(x,t) at specific times and positions, implying that the exponential solution may not meet these conditions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the applicability of the exponential solution, with some agreeing on its limitations in fitting boundary conditions while others explore its theoretical validity.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the dependence on boundary and initial conditions for solutions to the wave equation, as well as the potential limitations of using exponential functions in this context.

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I just learned how to derive the wave equation and now I have some questions about it. In my physics text (first year) it simply says (without reason) that the solution to the wave equation is y(x,t) = Acos(kx-wt), where A is the amplitude of displacement, k is the wave number and w is the angular frequency. This makes sense and fits the equation, but why isn't the solution y(x,t) = exp(x+ct), where c is the speed of the wave, valid? It doesn't make sense physically because there is no exponential growth in the amplitude of the wave, but does this come in anywhere? Is there any physical significance to this solution?

PS. I have not taken classes in differential equations yet so it might get explained there, but as of right now I don't know the answer.
 
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vancouver_water said:
why isn't the solution y(x,t) = exp(x+ct), where c is the speed of the wave, valid?
Any function f(x-ct)+g(x+ct) is a solution to the wave equation. Exponentials in general are not looked at much - they usually do not fit boundary or initial conditions. Plane waves (sines and cosines) are commonly studied as you can build up a large subgroup of the solutions (typically the physically interesting one) using Fourier transforms.
 
Simply plug the solution they give you into the wave equation.
 
Orodruin said:
Any function f(x-ct)+g(x+ct) is a solution to the wave equation. Exponentials in general are not looked at much - they usually do not fit boundary or initial conditions. Plane waves (sines and cosines) are commonly studied as you can build up a large subgroup of the solutions (typically the physically interesting one) using Fourier transforms.
I think this makes sense to me. So if the wave were along a rope, the boundary conditions would be the values of y(x,t) at certain times and x-positions? and the exponential solution would not fit these boundary values?
 

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