Expression y(x,t) for sinusoidal wave traveling along a rope

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The discussion focuses on deriving the expression for a sinusoidal wave traveling along a rope in the negative x-direction, given specific parameters such as amplitude, wavelength, and frequency. The correct expression involves converting units to SI and understanding the relationship between wave parameters, specifically how the wave's direction is determined by the signs of the wave number (k) and angular frequency (ω). A key point raised is the confusion over the signs indicating wave direction; it is clarified that a negative sign in the wave equation indicates propagation in the negative x-direction. Additionally, the concept of "phase" is emphasized to understand how disturbances travel along the wave. The conversation highlights the importance of correctly applying these principles to accurately describe wave motion.
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Homework Statement


(a) Write the expression for y as a function of x and t in SI units for a sinusoidal wave traveling along a rope in the negative x direction with the following characteristics: A = 5.00 cm, λ =85.0 cm, f = 5.00 Hz, and y(0, t) = 0 at t = 0. (Use the following as necessary: x and t.)

Write the expression for y as a function of x and t for the wave in part (a) assuming y(x, 0) = 0 at the point x = 17.0 cm. (Use the following as necessary: x and t.)

Homework Equations


Conversion equations from f and lambda to k and omega
y(x,t) = Asin(kx(+/-)wt)

The Attempt at a Solution


$$5\sin \left(10\pi t+\frac{2}{85}\pi x-.4\pi \right)$$
Why is this wrong? I don't understand. I put it into desmos, and it shows AT LEAST that at at y(17,0) = 0. Also based off the slider, it seems to be going in the negative x-direction, which is correct.
 
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SI units?
 
robphy said:
SI units?
So I'm supposed to put this in meters instead of centimeters?

I thought I tried that, but apparently I had other things wrong when I did. Thanks, I totally thought I had everything right.
 
By the way, if you don't mind me asking, how are you supposed to tell whether or not a wave is going along the positive or negative x-direction? I know it has to do with the signs, but it would seem intuitive that the angular frequency being negative would mean it's negative. However, it appears that both k and omega being positive means that it's going in the negative x-direction. Why?
 
horsedeg said:
By the way, if you don't mind me asking, how are you supposed to tell whether or not a wave is going along the positive or negative x-direction? I know it has to do with the signs, but it would seem intuitive that the angular frequency being negative would mean it's negative. However, it appears that both k and omega being positive means that it's going in the negative x-direction. Why?

Think "phase".
At an instant, consider a point on the string. Note its phase (the argument of the sin function).
As t increases, what must x do to keep this phase value (i.e. this disturbance) constant?
That's where the disturbance propagates to.

Old post:
https://www.physicsforums.com/threa...ean-in-the-wave-equation.836348/#post-5254546

https://www.desmos.com/calculator/bjt6dleg5h
 
robphy said:
Think "phase".
At an instant, consider a point on the string. Note its phase (the argument of the sin function).
As t increases, what must x do to keep this phase value (i.e. this disturbance) constant?
That's where the disturbance propagates to.

Old post:
https://www.physicsforums.com/threa...ean-in-the-wave-equation.836348/#post-5254546

https://www.desmos.com/calculator/bjt6dleg5h
Simplified, does this mean that a minus means positive direction and a plus means negative direction?
 
horsedeg said:
Simplified, does this mean that a minus means positive direction and a plus means negative direction?
Relative-minus sign means the disturbance travels in the positive x-direction.
 

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