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The problem involves finding the absolute maximum and minimum values of the function f(x) = e^(-x) - e^(-2x) on the interval [0,1]. Participants are discussing the critical points of the function and the implications of its derivative.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the derivative f '(x) = -e^(-x) + 2e^(-2x) and its implications for finding critical points. There are discussions about rewriting the equation for easier manipulation and factoring techniques. Some participants question the validity of taking the natural logarithm of certain expressions and the implications of critical points at x=0.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing various approaches to finding critical points and questioning the assumptions around the behavior of the function at specific values. There is no explicit consensus, but several lines of reasoning are being explored regarding the critical points and their significance.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenge of evaluating the function at x=0 and the implications of the logarithmic function in determining critical points. There is uncertainty regarding the definition of certain values within the context of the problem.

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Homework Statement


Find the absolute maximum and minimum values of f(x) = e[tex]^{}-x[/tex] - e[tex]^{}-2x[/tex] on [0,1].

f '(x) = -e^-x + 2e^-2x


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f '(x) = -e^-x + 2e^-2x
0 = -e^-x + 2e^-2x
e^-x = 2e^-2x
ln(e^-x) = ln(2e^-2x)
-x = ?
 
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ln(2e^-2x) - that's a product of two terms, right?

Another way to do this would be to rewrite the equation (0 = -e^-x + 2e^-2x) as

[tex]2\left(e^{-x}\right)^2 - e^{-x} = 0[/tex]
 
so you can factor out the e^-x and your left with:
e^-x(2(1)^2-1) = 0, correct?
 
coverticus said:
so you can factor out the e^-x and your left with:
e^-x(2(1)^2-1) = 0, correct?

No. If it makes any easier, substitute y in the place of e^(-x), so that

(2y^2 - y) = 0 becomes y(2y-1) = 0.
 
ln(e^-x) = ln(2e^-2x)

I am not sure that he know the rules: ln(A*B)=ln(A)+ln(B)

Also ln is the inverse of e, which means ln(e^C)=C
 
ok, so after substituting y for e^-x i saw that f has two critical points, on at x=0, and the other where e^-x=(1/2) . But how do you figure out x?
 
coverticus said:
on at x=0,
y=0, actually. e^(-x) = 0.

and the other where e^-x=(1/2) . But how do you figure out x?
Use the log function now.
 
ok so you take ln(e^-x) = ln(1/2)? What about the other critical number, you can't take ln(0) so how do you solve that function? Or is it a critical number because it's not defined? This is very confusing to me.
 
what I think I have it. ln(e^-x) = -x, so -x = ln(1/2), or x = -ln(1/2). But what about the zero?
 
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coverticus said:
x = -ln(1/2).
Or
x = -ln(1/2) = -(ln(1)-ln(2)) = ln(2) (It just looks better imo. :) )

But what about the zero?
Can you find a real x such that e^(-x) = 0 let alone one within [0,1]?
 
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