F_{P} is the force of air resistance on the parachute

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The discussion revolves around calculating the forces acting on a person parachuting with a downward acceleration of 3.0 m/s². Participants clarify that the forces include the weight of the person and parachute, the upward force from air resistance, and the net force. It is emphasized that acceleration is not a force, and the correct application of Newton's second law is crucial. The equation Fnet = mg - Fp = ma is confirmed as relevant, but participants express confusion about the calculations and the relationship between the forces. The conversation highlights the importance of correctly identifying the system and forces involved in solving the problem.
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Homework Statement


An 84 kg person is parachuting and experiencing a downward acceleration of 3.0 m/s2. The mass of the parachute is 5.5 kg.

a) What upward force is exerted on the open parachute by the air?
(b) What downward force is exerted by the person on the parachute?

Homework Equations


Fnet=mA
Fg=mg
W=mg

The Attempt at a Solution


How many forces are acting on him? Parachute force, air resistance, weight (mg), and acceleration? Is that the only forces? Would the equation look like Fnet = mg-Fp-Fair=mg ? I cannot seem to come up with the correct answer. Would a) and b) be equal?
 
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The parachute force is the force of air resistance (ignoring any small air resistance on the person), so don't count it twice. Also, acceleration is NOT a force. So there are just 2 forces acting on the person, the net sum of which must be in accord with Newton 2. You say 'a' and 'b' are equal...reasoning?
 
Sometimes they put more applicational problems instead of actual computing it was just a total guess. But Newtons law says Fnet=mg-Fp=ma correct? Is that the equation for this type of problem?
 
mcg5132 said:
Sometimes they put more applicational problems instead of actual computing it was just a total guess. But Newtons law says Fnet=mg-Fp=ma correct? Is that the equation for this type of problem?
Yes, but be careful to identify to which object or system of objects you are applying Newton's laws.
 
I'm confused, if these numbers are correct it seems like the answer would turn out exactly the same. Fp=mg(823.2)-ma(252)=571 Yes?
 
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for part a you seem to be quite close
but I think what you might need is
(m_{1}+m_{2})a=-m_{1}g-m_{2}g+F_{p}
where
m_{1} is the mass of the person
m_{2} is the mass of the parachute
g=9.8
a=3.0
 
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