Factoring (u^3-1): Homework Solution

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The discussion focuses on finding the limit of the expression (u^4 - 1)/(u^3 - 1) as u approaches 1. Participants emphasize the importance of factoring both the numerator and denominator to cancel the common factor (u - 1). The correct factorization of the numerator is confirmed as (u - 1)(u^3 + u^2 + u + 1), while the denominator can also be factored similarly. There is clarification that multiple valid factorizations exist, but only one is considered a prime factorization. The conversation highlights the algebraic techniques necessary to resolve the limit problem effectively.
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Homework Statement



This is a limit problem but what I'm stuck on is algebra: find lim as u approaches 1 of ((u^4)-1)/((u^3)-1).

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1 is a root and (u-1) is a common factor, so I want to rearrange the numerator and denominator so I can cancel (u-1) in the hopes that it will leave an equation that does not have a zero denominator when I plug in 1 to find the limit.

so the numerator either = ((u^2)-1)((u^2)+1) or (u-1)((u^3)+1) right?

The denominator I'm not sure how to write so that it has a factor (u-1) and = (u^3)-1. Any help is appreciated!
 
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u3-1= (u-1)(au2+bu+c)

so just equate coefficients now and you will be able to get it out.


3.141592654 said:
so the numerator either = ((u^2)-1)((u^2)+1) or (u-1)((u^3)+1) right?


Not or. There is only one.

u4-1 =(u2)2-1

the right side looks like a2-b2 which can be factored as (a+b)(a-b). So the first one is correct. Can you factor u2-1 again?
 
It can be seen immediately that u=1 is one of the solutions, so you can apply long divison with u-1 to find the other part.
 
Originally posted by 3.141592654
so the numerator either = ((u^2)-1)((u^2)+1) or (u-1)((u^3)+1) right?

rock.freak667 said:
Not or. There is only one.

u4-1 =(u2)2-1
There is only one factorization if you are limited to prime factorizations, but without this restriction, there can be multiple factorizations. The prime factorization is unique, up to the order of the factors. Pi's first factorization is correct and his second is not, but another would be (u - 1)(u^3 + u^2 + u + 1).

It works the same way with polynomials as it does with integers. For instance, 40 = 4*10 = 5*8 = 2*20 = 2*2*2*5. All of these are valid factorizations of the number 40, but only one of them is a prime factorization.

rock.freak667 said:
the right side looks like a2-b2 which can be factored as (a+b)(a-b). So the first one is correct. Can you factor u2-1 again?
 
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