Factorising a differntiated equation

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the differentiation and factorization of the function y=(2x+3)(4x-3)^(1/2). Participants are exploring how to express dy/dx in a specific form and are sharing their approaches to applying the chain rule and product rule in differentiation.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in factorizing functions with indices and seeks help with the differentiation of the given function.
  • Another participant questions whether the original poster is asked to find dy/dx in a specific form, suggesting a misunderstanding of the problem statement.
  • Participants discuss the application of the product rule and chain rule, with one participant stating that dv/dx should be (1/2)(4x-3)^(-1/2), while another participant argues for a different interpretation of the derivative.
  • There is a correction regarding the calculation of dv/dx, with one participant asserting that it should be 2(4x-3)^(-1/2) based on their understanding of the chain rule.
  • A later reply provides a suggestion to rewrite terms to achieve common denominators in the expression for dy/dx.
  • One participant indicates they have resolved the last part of the problem but still expresses confusion regarding the chain rule.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct application of the chain rule and the calculation of dv/dx, leading to multiple competing views on the differentiation process.

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There are unresolved aspects regarding the application of the chain rule and the specific steps in the differentiation process, which may depend on individual interpretations of the rules of calculus.

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Hello there,

I'm quite weak in factorising functions,especially those with indices.
I would appreciate any link on these kind of factorisation or even some tutoring on it.

this is a question I'm stuck in.

y=(2x+3)(4x-3)^1/2, show dy/dx can be written in the form kx/(4x-3)^1/2


my solution:

dy/dx =v(du/dx) + u(dv/dx)

where u=2x+3
du/dx=2
v=(4x-3)^1/2
dv/dx= -2(4x-3)^-1/2

then, dy/dx=[(4x-3)^1/2 ]2 -(-2)(2x+3)[(4x-3)^-1/2]
= 2{(4x-3)^1/2 - (2x+3)(4x-3)^-1/2}

= . . . .

(stumped!)
I am not sure what to do after that
 
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bkvitha said:
Hello there,

I'm quite weak in factorising functions,especially those with indices.
I would appreciate any link on these kind of factorisation or even some tutoring on it.

this is a question I'm stuck in.

y=(2x+3)(4x-3)^1/2, where its dy/dx can be written in the form kx/(4x-3)^1/2
There is no question there at all! Do you mean you are asked to find dy/dx in that form?

my solution:

dy/dx =v(du/dx) + u(dv/dx)

where u=2x+3
du/dx=2
v=(4x-3)^1/2
dv/dx= -2(4x-3)^-1/2
No, dv/dx= (1/2)(4x-3)^(-1/2)

then, dy/dx=[(4x-3)^1/2 ]2 -(-2)(2x+3)[(4x-3)^-1/2]
= 2{(4x-3)^1/2 - (2x+3)(4x-3)^-1/2}

= . . . .

(stumped!)
I am not sure what to do after that :rolleyes:

First, as I said, dv/dx= (1/2)(4x-3)^(-1/2), not what you have.

Making that correction, dy/dx= 2(4x-3)^(1/2)+ (1/2)(2x+3)(4x-3)^(-1/2).

It might help you to note that (4x-3)^(1/2)= (4x-3)/(4x-3)^(1/2) and, of course, (4x-3)^(-1/2)= 1/(4x-3)^(1/2). In other words, by replacing (4x-3)^(1/2) with 2(4x-3)/2(4x-3)^(1/2) you have "common denominators":

dy/dx= 4(4x-3)/(2(4x-3)^(1/2))+ (2x+3)/(2(4x-3)^(-1/2)
can you finish that?
 
HallsofIvy said:
No, dv/dx= (1/2)(4x-3)^(-1/2)

I do not understand why is it so

does not the chain rule state that dy/dx=dy/du *du/dx

hence, when y= U^n

dy/dx= (nu^n-1) * (du/dx)

so

v = (4x-3)^1/2

then dv/dx=1/2(4x-3)^(1/2 -1 ) *(4)
=2(4x-3)^-1/2

(correction to my previous equation with that was dv/dx =-2(4x-3)^-1/2)

correct me if I am wrong, pls n ty!and the second part...
t might help you to note that (4x-3)^(1/2)= (4x-3)/(4x-3)^(1/2) and, of course, (4x-3)^(-1/2)= 1/(4x-3)^(1/2).

I have never learned that till now that is my Secondory 5 year!(o-levels like)

enlighten me!
 
Oh oh,
i got the last part , now(had to work it out in a piece of paper first...oops)
 
but i still do not get the chain rule.
my textbook says that , by the waY.
 

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