Automotive Factors affecting compression spring oscillations

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The discussion focuses on addressing the bouncing effect of compression springs in machine design applications. Key points include the importance of the damping coefficient in reducing oscillation amplitude and the distinction between damped and undamped oscillators. Suggestions emphasize that merely adjusting spring constants or preload may not eliminate bouncing, and experimentation is recommended. Alternatives such as adding a rubber bumper or using hydraulic shock absorbers are proposed to effectively manage the bouncing issue. Overall, the conversation highlights the need for a comprehensive approach beyond just spring modifications to achieve desired performance.
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Factor affecting compression spring oscillating effect
Hi all,

I'm studying the compression spring design issue that occurred in a machine design application.

As illustrated below, spring is bouncing or oscillating after impact to a stopping surface (1 -> 2 -> 3 -> 4) and eventually stop after few bounces.
Ideal case for this application is to eliminate the bouncing effect (1 -> 4).

Assuming only enable changes in spring design, my question is:

What properties should I look into for reducing the bouncing effect? eg. deduct spring constant, reduce preload spring force, increase spring force?

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Do you know the equation for the harmonic oscillator?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic_oscillator

Are you asking about reducing the amplitude of the oscillation, or do you want to stop the oscillating motion as fast as possible? If you want to know when the oscillation stops, then you have to consider the damped oscillator, and look into the damping coefficient of the spring.
 
bigfooted said:
Do you know the equation for the harmonic oscillator?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic_oscillator

Are you asking about reducing the amplitude of the oscillation, or do you want to stop the oscillating motion as fast as possible? If you want to know when the oscillation stops, then you have to consider the damped oscillator, and look into the damping coefficient of the spring.

Thanks for reply. Will read through the harmonic oscillator.
Would prefer reducing the amplitude of the oscillation.
 
I would suggest experimentation as the easier approach.
If there is a specification about the force of first impact and subsequent pressing force against the surface, there is no much room to play with sping K and pre-load.
A friction or viscous dampener may be your solution.
 
Changing the spring constant and/or amount of preload will change the frequency of bouncing, but will not prevent it from bouncing. Your constraint of only changing the spring will not work. Two possibilities:

1) Add a rubber bumper to the end of the bouncing thing. This link gives a good idea of what rubber bumpers look like, and the different designs available: https://www.mcmaster.com/bumpers.

2) Change the spring/pusher assembly to a hydraulic shock absorber. Industrial hydraulic shock absorbers have springs as part of the assembly, plus you can add an additional spring if needed. Here is a link to the catalog of a good source of shock absorbers: https://www.acecontrols.com/media/acedownloads/ACE_Main Catalog-2018-US-imperial.pdf. They are not the only manufacturers of shock absorbers, but I have had good experience with them.
 
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