Fall down of an long elastically vertically placed rod

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of a long elastic rod that is dropped vertically, focusing on the bending observed at the free end of the rod as it falls. Participants explore whether this bending is an optical illusion or a mechanical phenomenon, while also considering the implications of holding the rod horizontally.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the scenario of a long elastic rod with one end fixed to the ground and the other free, questioning the nature of the bending observed at the free end during its fall.
  • Another participant suggests looking into "chimney breaks" as a related phenomenon, implying a similar underlying cause for the bending.
  • A thought experiment is proposed regarding holding the rod horizontally to compare its behavior to the observed bending when falling, raising questions about whether the rod would curve in a similar manner.
  • One participant expresses their belief that the rod does not curve when held horizontally, indicating a differing perspective on the bending phenomenon.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether the bending is an optical illusion or a mechanical effect, and differing views on the behavior of the rod when held horizontally are presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not address the effects of air resistance in their observations, which may influence the behavior of the rod during its fall.

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Let`s observe fall down of an long elastic vertically placed rod which has two point A and B. Point A is being placed on the ground and not moving, Point B is being free. We observe that the free ending is bending backwards and gets an arc shaped form. In your option, is it an optical illusion created from the velocity of free ending or is there rally a mechanical bending place? If there is a bending, what is the reason of its happening? Not mentioning here resistance of an air. P.S Sorry for my english
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Hello dodi, :welcome:

Google 'chimney breaks' -- it's the same root cause
 
dodi8 said:
Let`s observe fall down of an long elastic vertically placed rod which has two point A and B. Point A is being placed on the ground and not moving, Point B is being free. We observe that the free ending is bending backwards and gets an arc shaped form. In your option, is it an optical illusion created from the velocity of free ending or is there rally a mechanical bending place? If there is a bending, what is the reason of its happening? Not mentioning here resistance of an air. P.S Sorry for my englishView attachment 219187
To answer this, here is a thought experiment: You hold the rod horizontally by applying simple supports at its ends. Does the rod curve anything like what you appear to observe when it is falling?
 
BvU said:
Hello dodi, :welcome:

Google 'chimney breaks' -- it's the same root cause
thank you for any attention
 
Chestermiller said:
To answer this, here is a thought experiment: You hold the rod horizontally by applying simple supports at its ends. Does the rod curve anything like what you appear to observe when it is falling?
thank you for answer. i think the rod does not curve anithing
 

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