Final Speed of Object After Constant Force Applied - 31.358m/s

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The problem involves an object in outer space with a given mass and initial speed, subjected to a constant force while moving to a new location. Participants are discussing how to calculate the final speed of the object using principles from mechanics, particularly focusing on work, energy, and kinematics.

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  • Participants explore different methods, including using force and acceleration to find velocity, as well as applying work-energy principles. There are discussions about the correct application of equations and the nature of work as a scalar quantity.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the overall approach, suggesting that energy concepts may be more suitable for this problem. There is acknowledgment of errors in the application of vector and scalar quantities, but no consensus on the final outcome has been reached.

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Participants are currently covering energy in their coursework, which influences their approach to the problem. There are indications of confusion regarding the treatment of work and kinetic energy as scalar versus vector quantities.

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An object with mass 161kg moved in outer space. When it was at a location [PLAIN]https://s3.lite.msu.edu/adm/jsMath/fonts/cmsy10/alpha/144/char68.png7,-17,-9[PLAIN]https://s3.lite.msu.edu/adm/jsMath/fonts/cmsy10/alpha/144/char69.pngm its speed was 18m[PLAIN]https://s3.lite.msu.edu/adm/jsMath/fonts/cmmi10/alpha/144/char3D.pngs. A single constant force [PLAIN]https://s3.lite.msu.edu/adm/jsMath/fonts/cmsy10/alpha/144/char68.png143,308,-396[PLAIN]https://s3.lite.msu.edu/adm/jsMath/fonts/cmsy10/alpha/144/char69.pngN acted on the object while it moved to a location [PLAIN]https://s3.lite.msu.edu/adm/jsMath/fonts/cmsy10/alpha/144/char68.png14,-25,-15[PLAIN]https://s3.lite.msu.edu/adm/jsMath/fonts/cmsy10/alpha/144/char69.pngm. What is the speed of the object at this final location?[/B]

Homework Equations


W=Fd
F=ma
KE=1/2mv^2
v^2=u^2+2as

The Attempt at a Solution



1) Used F=ma
<143,308,-396> = 161a
a=<.888,1.913,-2.46>m/s

2) Plugged numbers into v^2=u^2+2as to get final velocity, I did it 3 times because of vectors so I got Vf= <18.342,17.192,18.802>

3) I took <18.342,17.192,18.802> and did sqrt(18.342^2+17.192^2+18.802^2) and got 31.358m/s[/B]
 
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Hello, Westin.

For the x-component, you would have ##v_x^2 = u_{x}^2 + 2a_x\Delta x##. But, you don't know ##u_x##.

I think work and energy concepts are going to be a better approach here.
 
The section we are covering is currently energy so I think you're right.

Second attempt:
1) W=Fd
W= (<143,308,-396> )(<7,-8,-6>)
W= <1001,-2464,2376>

2) Kfinal = Kintial + W

Kinital = (1/2)mv^2 = (1/2)(161)(18)^2 = 26082J

Kfinal = 26082J + <1001,-2464,2376>J

Kfinal = <27083, 23618, 28458> J

3) Kfinal / mass = Final velocity
<27083, 23618, 28458> / 161 = <168.217, 146.696, 176.758>m/s

4) sqrt(168.217^2+146.696^2+176.758^2) = 284.71m/s

Incorrect once again :/

 
Westin said:
The section we are covering is currently energy so I think you're right.

Second attempt:
1) W=Fd
W= (<143,308,-396> )(<7,-8,-6>)
W= <1001,-2464,2376>

Work is a scalar quantity, not a vector quantity.
 
does everything else look good besides that?
 
You have the correct overall approach.
But note that KE is also a scalar quantity!
 
Westin said:

3) Kfinal / mass = Final velocity

Check this.
 

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