Find a line tangent to the parametric curve

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Homework Statement



Let r(t) = <\cos(e^{-t}),\sin(e^{-t}),3e^{-t}>, find the equation of the line tangent to r(t) at the point \left ( \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}, \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}, \frac{3\pi}{4} \right)

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Okay, in just normal Cartesian Coord, we have y - y_0 = f'(x)(x - x_0)

So I suspect in parametric form we have something like r - r_0 = r'(t)(t - t_0)

I am a bit unsure about the t - t0 part.

The Attempt at a Solution



r'(t) = <-e^{-t}\sin(e^{-t}), -e^{-t}\cos(e^{-t}), -3e^{-t}>

So I must find a t corresponding to the point \left ( \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}, \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}, \frac{3\pi}{4} \right).

I set r(t) = \left ( \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}, \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}, \frac{3\pi}{4} \right)

Solving (well I only need to solve for one of them), I get t = -ln{\frac{\pi}{4}}

Then I evaluated r'(-ln{\frac{\pi}{4}}) = \frac{-\pi}{4}<\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}, \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}, 3>

Now the problem is, I don't know how to set up my line. I know I am in Calculus right now and I should know it by now, but I don't so that's why I am here.

Thank you
 
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flyingpig said:
So I suspect in parametric form we have something like r - r_0 = r'(t)(t - t_0)

Isn't it in your text?

\vec R(t) = \vec R(t_0) + t\vec R'(t_0)
 
LCKurtz said:
Isn't it in your text?

\vec R(t) = \vec R(t_0) + t\vec R'(t_0)

No, mine had a minus sign
 
If you are taking multiple variable calculus, you should be able to recognize that
r- r_0= r'(t_0)(t- t_0)
(NOT "r'(t)") is the same as
r= r_0+ r'(t_0)(t- t_0)
though NOT necessarily the same as
r= r_0+ r'(t_0)t
unless t_0= 0[/tex].<br /> <br /> You should have learned by now that a curve or line (one-dimensional figure) cannot be written in a single equation. A single equation reduces from 3 dimensions to 3- 1 dimensions- a surface. To write a curve you have to have either two equations, reducing to 3- 2= 1 dimension, or three parametric equations (so you have 4 variables with 3 equations: 4- 3= 1- or just think that depending on <b>1</b> parameter is <b>1</b> dimensional). The parametric equations for the tangent line to <br /> \vec{r}(t)= f(t)\vec{i}+ g(t)\vec{j}+ h(t)\vec{k}<br /> at (x_0, y_0, z_0) are given by <br /> (x_0+ tf&amp;#039;(t_0)\vec{i}+ (y_0+ tg&amp;#039;(t_0))\vec{j}+ (z_0+ th&amp;#039;(t_0))\vec{k}<br /> where t_0 is, of course, the value of the parameter t that gives (x_0, y_0, z_0) in the original vector function.
 
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And to flying pig, just in case you are puzzled by the difference between these two equations of the tangent line:

<br /> \vec R(t)= \vec R(t_0)+ \vec R&#039;(t_0)t<br />

<br /> \vec R(t)= \vec R(t_0)+ \vec R&#039;(t_0)(t- t_0)<br />

They both give the same line but with a different parameterization. The first tangent line is at R(t0) when t = 0 and the second is at R(t0) when t = t0.
 
Let me correct myself. I think the tangent line should have the form of

r(t) - r(t_0) = r&#039;(t_0)(t - t_0)

HallsofIvy said:
If you are taking multiple variable calculus, you should be able to recognize that
r- r_0= r&#039;(t_0)(t- t_0)
(NOT "r'(t)") is the same as
r= r_0+ r&#039;(t_0)(t- t_0)
though NOT necessarily the same as
r= r_0+ r&#039;(t_0)t
unless t_0= 0[/tex].
I am not sure what you are getting at here, the first and second looks the same to me<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="LCKurtz" data-source="post: 3278260" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> LCKurtz said: </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> And to flying pig, just in case you are puzzled by the difference between these two equations of the tangent line:<br /> <br /> &lt;br /&gt; \vec R(t)= \vec R(t_0)+ \vec R&amp;#039;(t_0)t&lt;br /&gt; </div> </div> </blockquote><br /> &lt;br /&gt; \vec R(t)= \vec R(t_0)+ \vec R&amp;#039;(t_0)(t- t_0)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> <br /> They both give the same line but with a different parameterization. The first tangent line is at <b>R</b>(t<sub>0</sub>) when t = 0 and the second is at <b>R</b>(t<sub>0</sub>) when t = t<sub>0</sub>.[/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> If t = 0 for the first one, shouldn&#039;t we get \vec{R(t)} = \vec{R(t_0)} - \vec{R(t_0)}t_0?<br /> <br /> Same argument for the other one.<br /> <br /> Anyways taking the form r(t) - r(t_0) = r&amp;#039;(t_0)(t - t_0) <br /> <br /> I get q(t) (I will use another letter)<br /> <br /> q(t) = &amp;lt;\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}},\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}},\frac{3\pi}{4}&amp;gt; + \frac{\pi}{4}&amp;lt;\frac{-1}{\sqrt{2}},\frac{-1}{\sqrt{2}}, -3&amp;gt; (t - (- ln\frac{\pi}{4}))<br /> <br /> This is the one I thought it was right originally but according to HallsoIvy, it should be<br /> <br /> q(t) = &amp;lt;\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}},\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}},\frac{3\pi}{4}&amp;gt; + \frac{\pi t}{4}&amp;lt;\frac{-1}{\sqrt{2}},\frac{-1}{\sqrt{2}}, -3&amp;gt;<br /> <br /> Where I completely removed t<sub>0</sub>
 
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