Find an expression for the power developed at the given rotation rate

AI Thread Summary
The discussion focuses on deriving an expression for power developed at a specific rotation rate, starting with the relationship between period and rotation rate to find velocity. The user successfully calculates the centripetal force and friction, arriving at the expression 4(π^2)mR(N^2) for part (a). In part (b), confusion arises regarding the power calculation, as the user applies P=Fvcos(theta) but mistakenly assumes theta is 90 degrees, leading to a power of zero. Clarification is sought on the role of mass in the context of a stationary belt and rigid drum, with emphasis on understanding the torques acting on the drum. The conversation highlights the need for a clearer understanding of forces and torques in this rotational system.
hi im nimdA
Messages
7
Reaction score
0
Homework Statement
A Prony brake is a device that measures the horsepower of engines. The engine rotates a shaft of radius R at N rev/sec. The rotation is opposed by a belt which is attached to two tension measuring devices, such as springs. (a) What is the force of friction acting on the engine? (b) Obtain an expression for the power developed at the given rotation rate.
Relevant Equations
T=(2 pi R)/v , F=(m v^2)/R, P=Fvcos(theta)
241144

So for part (a), I used the fact that 1/N = the period = T. I solved for the velocity, where i got v=2πRN. I plugged that v into F=(m v^2)/R, which is the centripetal force, but also the force of friction. My answer to part (a) is 4(π^2)mR(N^2).

I'm a bit confused on part (b). I know that P=Fvcos(theta), but since v acts at a tangent and F acts towards the center, my theta will be 90, and
cos 90 = 0, so I'm getting 0 for the power (this doesn't make sense). What am I doing wrong?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
hi I am nimdA said:
into F=(m v^2)/R, which is the centripetal force, but also the force of friction.
The belt is not moving, and the drum is rigid, so I'm not sure what mass your m is, but centripetal force cannot be of interest. And it certainly does not equal the force of friction.
What torques are being exerted on the drum?
 
I multiplied the values first without the error limit. Got 19.38. rounded it off to 2 significant figures since the given data has 2 significant figures. So = 19. For error I used the above formula. It comes out about 1.48. Now my question is. Should I write the answer as 19±1.5 (rounding 1.48 to 2 significant figures) OR should I write it as 19±1. So in short, should the error have same number of significant figures as the mean value or should it have the same number of decimal places as...
Thread 'A cylinder connected to a hanging mass'
Let's declare that for the cylinder, mass = M = 10 kg Radius = R = 4 m For the wall and the floor, Friction coeff = ##\mu## = 0.5 For the hanging mass, mass = m = 11 kg First, we divide the force according to their respective plane (x and y thing, correct me if I'm wrong) and according to which, cylinder or the hanging mass, they're working on. Force on the hanging mass $$mg - T = ma$$ Force(Cylinder) on y $$N_f + f_w - Mg = 0$$ Force(Cylinder) on x $$T + f_f - N_w = Ma$$ There's also...

Similar threads

Back
Top