Find an expression for the velocity of the electron and calculate it

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The discussion revolves around finding an expression for the velocity of an electron in a hydrogen atom using Niel Bohr's model and Newton's laws of motion. The context involves circular motion and the forces acting on the electron.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply Newton's second law to a circular motion scenario and questions how it relates to the problem. Participants discuss the nature of acceleration in circular motion and clarify the distinction between uniform speed and uniform velocity.

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Participants have provided hints regarding the nature of centripetal acceleration and the forces involved. There is an acknowledgment of the relationship between centripetal force and Coulomb's law, leading towards a potential expression for velocity. The discussion appears to be productive, with participants engaging in clarifying concepts and offering guidance.

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Participants are working within the constraints of Bohr's model and the assumptions related to the forces acting on the electron. The original poster has expressed a need for assistance in understanding the application of physics principles to this problem.

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Velocity Problem - I need help badly!

Using Niel Bohr's model of the hydrogen atom, the electron travels around the proton in a uniform circular path. Using Newton's 2d law of motion, find an expression for the velocity of the electron and calculate it. The mass of an electron is 9.10 x 10^-31 kg.

I know Newton's 2nd law of motion is f=ma, but how is that applicable?? Help Please!

Thanks,
Ryan
 
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HINT: When you have circular motion, what is the expression for acceleration?
 
acceleration would be 0 if something is moving in a circular motion at uniform speed?
 
Uniform SPEED, does not mean uniform VELOCITY! Check the circular motion section of your physics text for the acceleration of an object in uniform circular motion. Then use that as your acceleration.
 
ryoung815 said:
acceleration would be 0 if something is moving in a circular motion at uniform speed?

no, an object in circular motion has a centripetal acceleration. The fact that the direction of the velocity is changing means that the electron is accelerating, even if its speed is constant.

centripetal acceleration is v^2/R, right? Centripetal force is then mv^2/r.

You can determine the centripetal force also by using coulomb's law, which is kq1q1/r^2, right?

so, kq1q2/r^2 = mv^2/R. you know everything except for the velocity. you know the charge of the electron, you know the charge of the nucleus, you know the bohr radius, and you know the mass of an electron. You can easily solve for v.
 
thanks! I got it. i appreciate the help friends!
 
That's awesome! Good Luck to you in the future!
 

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