Find angle required for total internal reflection of a beam of light

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The discussion revolves around the conditions for total internal reflection in an optical fiber, specifically focusing on the relationship between the angle of incidence and the indices of refraction of the materials involved. The original poster presents a problem involving an optical fiber with a glass core and a coating, seeking to understand the maximum angle of incidence that allows light to travel through the fiber without loss.

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  • Participants explore the derivation of the maximum angle for total internal reflection, questioning the validity of their calculations and the origin of the term involving the square root of the difference of squares of the indices of refraction. There is a focus on the critical angle and its implications for light behavior in the fiber.

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Some participants have provided insights and corrections regarding the mathematical steps involved in deriving the maximum angle, while others express confusion about specific equations and their implications. The discussion is ongoing, with multiple interpretations being explored, and no explicit consensus has been reached yet.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can use or the methods they can apply. There is an emphasis on understanding the relationships between angles and indices of refraction without arriving at a definitive solution.

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Homework Statement



An optical fiber consists of a glass core (index of refraction n1) surrounded by a coating (index of refration n2<n1). Suppose a beam of light enters the fiber from air at an angle θ with the fiber axis as shown in attached. (a) Show that the greatest possible value of θ for which a ray can travel down the fiber is given by θ = arcsin(sqrt(n1^2 - n2^2)). (b) If the indices of refraction of the glass and coating are 1.58 and 1.53, respectively, what is this value of the incident angle θ?

Homework Equations



na*sin(θa) = n1*sin(θ1)

Critical Angle: θc = arcsin(n1/n2)

The Attempt at a Solution



See attached for my drawing. Any angle greater than θc will cause total internal reflection so,

θo > θc

where θo = 90 - θ1

Substituting for θc

θo > arcsin(n2/n1)

Substituting for θo

90 - θ1 > arcsin(n2/n1)

Substituting for θ1

90 - arcsin(sin(θa)/n1) > arcsin(n2/n1)

Taking sine of the whole equation

1 - sin(θa/n1) > n2/n1

Solving for θa

θa < arcsin(n1-n2)

According to my calculations, this would be the maximum angle θa for which a ray can travel down the fiber. Unfortunately it's not correct.

Where do they get the sqrt(n1^2-n2^2) term?

Thanks in advance, MrMoose
 

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MrMoose said:

Homework Statement



An optical fiber consists of a glass core (index of refraction n1) surrounded by a coating (index of refration n2<n1). Suppose a beam of light enters the fiber from air at an angle θ with the fiber axis as shown in attached. (a) Show that the greatest possible value of θ for which a ray can travel down the fiber is given by θ = arcsin(sqrt(n1^2 - n2^2)). (b) If the indices of refraction of the glass and coating are 1.58 and 1.53, respectively, what is this value of the incident angle θ?

Homework Equations



na*sin(θa) = n1*sin(θ1)

Critical Angle: θc = arcsin(n1/n2)

The Attempt at a Solution



See attached for my drawing. Any angle greater than θc will cause total internal reflection so,

θo > θc

where θo = 90 - θ1

Substituting for θc

θo > arcsin(n2/n1)

Substituting for θo

90 - θ1 > arcsin(n2/n1)

Substituting for θ1

90 - arcsin(sin(θa)/n1) > arcsin(n2/n1)

Taking sine of the whole equation

1 - sin(θa/n1) > n2/n1

Solving for θa

θa < arcsin(n1-n2)

According to my calculations, this would be the maximum angle θa for which a ray can travel down the fiber. Unfortunately it's not correct.

Where do they get the sqrt(n1^2-n2^2) term?

Thanks in advance, MrMoose

The equation in red is wrong. sin(90-ψ) is not 1-sinψ.

ehild
 
Nice, Thanks ehild! I think I got it now. Taking up from just before the incorrect equation:

90 - arcsin(sin(θa)/n1) > arcsin(n2/n1)

sin[90 - arcsin(sin(θa)/n1)] > n2/n1

using the following property for sine: sin(x-y) = sinx*cosy - cosx*siny

sin(90)*cos[arcsin(sinθa/n1)] - sin(θa)/n1*cos(90) > n2/n1

Simplifying:

cos[arcsin(sinθa/n1)] > n2/n1

using the following property for cosine: cos[arcsin(x)] = sqrt(1-x^2)

sqrt{1-[sin(θa)/n1]^2} > n2/n1

solving for θa.

θa < arcsin[sqrt(n1^2-n2^2)]

Thanks for your help!
 
Good job!

MrMoose said:
sin[90 - arcsin(sin(θa)/n1)] > n2/n1

using the following property for sine: sin(x-y) = sinx*cosy - cosx*siny

It is correct. Even simpler: the cosine of an angle θ in a right triangle is just the sine of the other angle, 90-θ. :smile:

ehild
 
MrMoose said:

Homework Statement



An optical fiber consists of a glass core (index of refraction n1) surrounded by a coating (index of refration n2<n1). Suppose a beam of light enters the fiber from air at an angle θ with the fiber axis as shown in attached. (a) Show that the greatest possible value of θ for which a ray can travel down the fiber is given by θ = arcsin(sqrt(n1^2 - n2^2)). (b) If the indices of refraction of the glass and coating are 1.58 and 1.53, respectively, what is this value of the incident angle θ?

Homework Equations



na*sin(θa) = n1*sin(θ1)

Critical Angle: θc = arcsin(n1/n2)

The Attempt at a Solution



See attached for my drawing. Any angle greater than θc will cause total internal reflection so,

θo > θc

where θo = 90 - θ1

Substituting for θc

θo > arcsin(n2/n1)

Substituting for θo

90 - θ1 > arcsin(n2/n1)

Substituting for θ1

90 - arcsin(sin(θa)/n1) > arcsin(n2/n1)


Taking sine of the whole equation

1 - sin(θa/n1) > n2/n1

Solving for θa

θa < arcsin(n1-n2)

According to my calculations, this would be the maximum angle θa for which a ray can travel down the fiber. Unfortunately it's not correct.

Where do they get the sqrt(n1^2-n2^2) term?

Thanks in advance, MrMoose

It may be painfully obvious, but how exactly was θ1 = arcsin(sin(θa)/n1) derived?
 

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