Find Distance of Electric Charge 3 from q1: 13.9 cm

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The discussion focuses on determining the distance from charge q1 where charge q2 experiences a net electrostatic force of zero, given that q1 and q3 are fixed at a distance of 38 cm apart. The calculations involve setting up equations based on Coulomb's law and simplifying them to find the distance d1,2. The correct distance is identified as 13.9 cm. Participants note that a simpler method could have been used, avoiding complex quadratic equations. The conversation highlights the importance of exploring different approaches in problem-solving.
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3. Suppose the charge q2 in Figure 19-30 can be moved left or right along the line connecting the charges q1 and q3, rather than sitting at a distance d from each. Given that q = 15 µC, find the distance from q1 where q2 experiences a net electrostatic force of zero. (The charges q1 and q3 remain separated by a fixed distance of 2d=38 cm.)
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As I stare at this, it seems like there should be an easier way than the way I did it:

<br /> \begin{array}{l}<br /> k\frac{{q_{1} \,q_2 }}{{d_{1,2}^2 }} = k\frac{{q_{2} \,q_3 }}{{d_{2,3}^2 }} \\ <br /> \\ <br /> \rlap{--} k\frac{{q_{1} \,q_2 }}{{d_{1,2}^2 }} = \rlap{--} k\frac{{q_{2} \,q_3 }}{{d_{2,3}^2 }} \\ <br /> \\ <br /> \frac{{q \times 2q}}{{d_{1,2}^2 }} = \frac{{2q \times 3q}}{{d_{2,3}^2 }} \\ <br /> \\ <br /> \frac{{2q^2 }}{{d_{1,2}^2 }} = \frac{{6q^2 }}{{d_{2,3}^2 }} \\ <br /> \\ <br /> \frac{{2\rlap{--} q^{\rlap{--} 2} }}{{d_{1,2}^2 }} = \frac{{6\rlap{--} q^{\rlap{--} 2} }}{{d_{2,3}^2 }} \\ <br /> \\ <br /> \frac{2}{{d_{1,2}^2 }} = \frac{6}{{d_{2,3}^2 }} \\ <br /> \\ <br /> d_{2,3} = 0.38 - d_{1,2} \\ <br /> \\ <br /> \frac{2}{{d_{1,2}^2 }} = \frac{6}{{\left( {0.38 - d_{1,2} } \right)^2 }} \\ <br /> \\ <br /> \frac{2}{{d_{1,2}^2 }} = \frac{6}{{\left( {0.38 - d_{1,2} } \right)\left( {0.38 - d_{1,2} } \right)}} \\ <br /> \\ <br /> \frac{2}{{d_{1,2}^2 }} = \frac{6}{{0.38^2 - 0.76d_{1,2} + d_{1,2}^2 }} \\ <br /> \\ <br /> 2\left( {0.38^2 - 0.76d_{1,2} + d_{1,2}^2 } \right) = 6d_{1,2}^2 \\ <br /> \end{array}<br />

<br /> \[<br /> \begin{array}{l}<br /> 0.38^2 - 0.76d_{1,2} = 2d_{1,2}^2 \\ <br /> \\ <br /> - 2d_{1,2}^2 - 0.76d_{1,2} - 0.38^2 = 0 \\ <br /> \\ <br /> d_{1,2} = \frac{{ - b \pm \sqrt {b^2 - 4ac} }}{{2a}} \\ <br /> \\ <br /> d_{1,2} = \frac{{ - \left( { - 0.76} \right) \pm \sqrt {\left( { - 0.76} \right)^2 - 4 \times - 2 \times - 0.38^2 } }}{{2 \times - 2}} \\ <br /> \\ <br /> d_{1,2} = - 0.51908965 \\ <br /> d_{1,2} = 0.13908965 \\ <br /> \end{array}<br />
With 0.139 m or (13.9 cm) being the correct answer
 
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Ahh, the same old story of knowing too much math.
From \frac{2}{{d_{1,2}}^2}=\frac{6}{(0.38-{d_{1,2}})^2}

you could have simply divided both sides by 2 and taken the square root.
No quadratics involved.
 
Thanks. I've never been accused of knowing too much math :).

Your way was simpler.
 
You're welcome ;)
 
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