Find dy of x/( sqrt (3x + 6) )

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The discussion revolves around finding the differential dy of the function y = x / sqrt(3x + 6). Participants are reviewing calculus concepts in preparation for an exam, specifically focusing on differentiation techniques.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss using the quotient rule and product rule for differentiation. There are attempts to rewrite the function in different forms to facilitate finding the derivative. Questions arise about the correctness of intermediate steps and the application of the chain rule.

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Several participants have provided guidance on using different differentiation techniques. There is an ongoing exploration of methods, with some participants questioning the accuracy of each other's calculations and suggesting the need for intermediate steps.

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Participants are preparing for an exam and are working within the constraints of a review problem that provides only the function and the expected answer, without detailed steps or explanations.

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Homework Statement


I am doing my review for an exam Friday and the review shows only this: "find dy"

x/( sqrt(3x + 6) )

The review gives me the answer which is:
[(3x + 12)/2(3x + 6)^(3/2)]dx

2. The attempt at a solution

I started out by re-writing the sqrt as " (3x + 6)^1/2 " which I then proceeded to multiply the equation by the derivative of " (3x + 6) " and got:

3x/(3x + 6)^(1/2).

I'm stuck on how to proceed.
 
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HellRyu said:

Homework Statement


I am doing my review for an exam Friday and the review shows only this: "find dy"

x/( sqrt(3x + 6) )

The review gives me the answer which is:
[(3x + 12)/2(3x + 6)^(3/2)]dx

2. The attempt at a solution

I started out by re-writing the sqrt as " (3x + 6)^1/2 " which I then proceeded to multiply the equation by the derivative of " (3x + 6) " and got:

3x/(3x + 6)^(1/2).

I'm stuck on how to proceed.

Do you know the quotient rule for derivatives? Or equivalently, convert from

[tex]\frac{x}{(3x+6)^{1/2}}[/tex]

to

[tex]x(3x+6)^{-1/2}[/tex]

and use the product rule, setting [itex]u=x[/itex] and [itex]v=(3x+6)^{-1/2}[/itex]
 
when you have functions like this, sometimes it's easier to write out your systems in general terms.

rewrite your equation as f(x)/g(x), or f(x)g(x)^-1, if you prefer, where f(x)=x and g(x)=√(3x+6). so now find the derivative of this. do it piece by piece until you have your solution.
 
HellRyu said:

Homework Statement


I am doing my review for an exam Friday and the review shows only this: "find dy"

x/( sqrt(3x + 6) )

The review gives me the answer which is:
[(3x + 12)/2(3x + 6)^(3/2)]dx

2. The attempt at a solution

I started out by re-writing the sqrt as " (3x + 6)^1/2 " which I then proceeded to multiply the equation by the derivative of " (3x + 6) " and got:

3x/(3x + 6)^(1/2).

I'm stuck on how to proceed.
Hello HellRyu. Welcome to PF !

The question should have read something like:
Find dy, for [itex]\displaystyle y=\frac{x}{\sqrt{3x + 6}}\ .[/itex]​
Of course, [itex]\displaystyle dy=\frac{dy}{dx} dx=y'\,dx[/itex]

Basically, find y' and multiply by dx.

Use the quotient rule with [itex]\displaystyle y=\frac{x}{(3x + 6)^{1/2}}\,,\[/itex] or use the product rule with [itex]\displaystyle y=x(3x + 6)^{-1/2}\ .[/itex]
 
SammyS said:
Hello HellRyu. Welcome to PF !

The question should have read something like:
Find dy, for [itex]\displaystyle y=\frac{x}{\sqrt{3x + 6}}\ .[/itex]​
Of course, [itex]\displaystyle dy=\frac{dy}{dx} dx=y'\,dx[/itex]

Basically, find y' and multiply by dx.

Use the quotient rule with [itex]\displaystyle y=\frac{x}{(3x + 6)^{1/2}}\,,\[/itex] or use the product rule with [itex]\displaystyle y=x(3x + 6)^{-1/2}\ .[/itex]

Hi, and thank you! :)

I started using the quotient rule which got me stuck at:

[tex](-3x^{2} + 3x + 6)/ ( (3x + 6)^{3/2} )[/tex]
 
HellRyu said:
Hi, and thank you! :)

I started using the quotient rule which got me stuck at:

[tex](-3x^{2} + 3x + 6)/ ( (3x + 6)^{3/2} )[/tex]
That's incorrect.

Show some intermediate steps.
 
SammyS said:
That's incorrect.

Show some intermediate steps.

O.K. I thought it was. I have:

[tex]x/( (3x + 6)^{1/2} ) "f(x) / g(x)"[/tex]

I then get [tex]"g(x)( f' (x) ) -( f(x)( g'(x) ) ) "[/tex]

over

[tex]"g(x)^{2} "[/tex]

I plug my f(x)'s and g(x)'s with their derivatives

[tex](3x + 6)^{1/2} (1) - (x(3x) )[/tex]

over

[tex](3x + 6)^{3/2}[/tex]
Is this correct so far? Or did I make a mistake somewhere?
 
No, you need to use the chain rule on the 2nd part.
 
MarneMath said:
No, you need to use the chain rule on the 2nd part.

Ha! You guys are genius', thank you all so much! I figured it out.
 

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