Find E Field at Y-Axis: Q1,Q2 Charges at P1,P2

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The discussion revolves around finding the electric field at a point on the y-axis where the x-component of the electric field (Ex) is zero, given two point charges Q1 and Q2 located at specified coordinates. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and problem-solving related to electrostatics.

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  • One participant presents the problem of determining the point on the y-axis where Ex=0, given charges Q1 and Q2 at specific locations.
  • Another participant attempts to calculate the electric field contributions from both charges and expresses confusion about their results.
  • A third participant suggests equating the x-components of the electric fields from both charges to find the point where Ex=0.
  • Further calculations are provided by another participant to verify the results using the proposed y value from a solutions manual.
  • Participants discuss the closeness of their calculated values, indicating a level of agreement on the approach but not on the exact numerical results.

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Participants generally agree on the method of equating the electric field components to find Ex=0, but there is no consensus on the exact numerical solution, as different values are discussed.

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Some calculations involve assumptions about the distances and the arrangement of the charges, which may affect the results. The discussion reflects uncertainty in the numerical accuracy of the solutions presented.

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Homework Statement


Point charge Q1 = 25nC located at P1(4,-2,7) and a charge Q2 = 60 nC be at P2(-3,4,-2). At what point on the y-axis is Ex=0?


Homework Equations


E= [ Q / (4*pi*E0*r*r) ] ar

The Attempt at a Solution



I took:
( Q1 / 4*pi*E0*(x*x+y*y+z*z) * (y / sqrt(x*x+y*y+z*z)) ay

I got -6.51.

The solution is -6.89.


Am I way off base or on the right path? Thanks for your help.
 
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It appears I might have been way off base. Reworking a different thought...call off the Help Department (for now). :)

Report back in a few...
 
Ok. I'm stuck again...
Basically we want Ex=0 at some point (P3) on the y-axis. So the point P3 (0,y,0).

Taking the two points to get the total E field. ET = E13 + E23.

I've got:

E13 = 25nC [(0-4)ax + (y+2)ay + (0-7)az ] / (4*pi* 8.854e-12 [(-4)^2 + (y+2)^2 + (-7)^2]^3/2)

E23 = 60nC [(0-(-3)ax + (y-4)ay + (0+2)az ] / (4*pi* 8.854e-12 [(3)^2 + (y-4)^2 + (2)^2]^3/2)

Kind of stuck at this point...any help? Thanks.
 
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I saw through your work very quickly. Here's what I have to offer:

Now since you want Ex= 0 equate the x components of E13 and E23 together and take their magnitude. Only when they are EQUAL and OPPOSITE in magnitude and direction respectively, will you get Ex= 0.
 
Yes, that works! You can do it in two ways. From the above post, you can either calculate the value for y, or you can plug in your answer y= -6.89 from the solutions manual that you have and find out that both the magnitudes are the same.

So

25nC* -4
----------------------------- = -0.11927*10^-9 when y= -6.89
[16+ (y+2)^2 + 49 ]^3/2


and



60nC* 3
----------------------------- = -0.11924*10^-9 when y= -6.89
[9+ (y-4)^2 + 4 ]^3/2


I think that's pretty close enough!

I hope that helped.
 
Yes, it did. Thanks for your help.
 

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