Find F(x) when v(x) is given. Chain rule?

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To find the net force acting on an object with a mass of 1500 kg given the velocity function v(x) = (4.0 [1/ms]) * x^2, the chain rule is necessary for differentiation. The acceleration a(x) can be derived using the relationship a = dv/dt, which can be rewritten as a = (dv/dx) * (dx/dt), where dx/dt is v(x). The correct expression for force is F(x) = m * a(x) = m * v(x) * (dv/dx), leading to the final result F(x) = 1500[kg] * 32.0[1/m^2*s^2] * x^3. The calculations provided confirm the approach and yield the correct answer.
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Homework Statement



The movement of an object with a mass of 1500kg is given by v(x)=(4.0 [1/ms]) * x^2

Determine the net force acting on the object as a function of x.

Homework Equations



F=ma

The Attempt at a Solution



I know I'm supposed to use the chain rule to solve this but I have no idea how I'm supposed to do it. My instinct is to just find the 1st order derivative of this equation to get a(x) and then according to Newton's second law F(x)=m*a(x) will give me the final answer. But since I am told to use the chain rule, I suspect that it might be incorrect to simply differentiate v(x) as is.

An explanation would be great, but if I can even just get the correct final answer I would be able to try and make sense of it myself.

Thank you.
 
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You can get dv/dx, but you know that a = dv/dt by definition.

You can rewrite it as dv/dt = dv/dx * dx/dt

and dx/dt is the same as?
 
rock.freak667 said:
You can get dv/dx, but you know that a = dv/dt by definition.

You can rewrite it as dv/dt = dv/dx * dx/dt

and dx/dt is the same as?

dx/dt is the same as v(t) but I don't know v(t), or do I?

Thanks!
 
mg11 said:
dx/dt is the same as v(t) but I don't know v(t), or do I?

Thanks!

Usually it would be v(t), but remember you can re-write it in terms of x to get v(x). So in this case it is simply v(x).
 
rock.freak667 said:
Usually it would be v(t), but remember you can re-write it in terms of x to get v(x). So in this case it is simply v(x).

OK, so in that case would the answer be F(x)=m*a(x)=m*v(x)*v`(x) ?

I did this and got F(x)=1500[kg]*32.0[1/m^2*s^2]*x^3

Is that right?
 
I have an exam tomorrow that includes a question of this type. Could someone please just confirm if I'm right?

Thanks
 
What did you use for dv/dx ?
 
SammyS said:
What did you use for dv/dx ?

I differentiated the original function v(x) and got

dv/dx = 2 * 4.0[1/ms] * x

Then I multiplied it by the original v(x) and got

2 * 4.0[1/ms] * X * 4.0[1/ms] * x^2 = 32.0[1/m^2*s^2] * x^3
--------------------- --------------------
dv/dx v(x)
 
Can anyone just give me a yes/no answer to this? Did I solve right?

I have to go to sleep soon before the test tomorrow. I would really appreciate some help.
 
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Yes, it looks fine !
 
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SammyS said:
Yes, it looks fine !

Great, Thank you!
 
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