Find function with given boundary conditions

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The discussion revolves around finding a function φ(x,y) that satisfies Laplace's equation under specific boundary conditions for an infinite plate with two electrodes. The initial approach involved using Green's function, but it was found inadequate because it resulted in poles at the electrode locations, leading to infinite values instead of the required ±U/2. The user proposed adjusting the model by introducing a radius R for the electrodes to avoid singularities, but this raised concerns about the minimum value of R being dependent on parameters a and U. Ultimately, the solution was identified as simply adding a constant multiplier to the logarithmic function, which would ensure the boundary conditions are met. The discussion highlights the importance of correctly manipulating mathematical functions to satisfy physical constraints in electrostatics.
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Homework Statement


I have an infinite plate of which two electrodes are attached at a distance ##2a## and the electric potential between them is ##U##.
Now I have to find a function ##\phi (x,y)## that satisfies Laplace's equation ##\nabla ^2 \phi =0## and is equal to ##0## at all possible infinities but at the same time equal to ##\pm \frac U 2## at (or at least very close to) the electrodes.


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The Attempt at a Solution


This problem was once already on this forums but he couldn't find and ending. The idea then was to find the function that satisfies all given conditions, but since we never studied Green's functions I assume I don't have to do that, therefore I am now (and also since physicists do that) trying to simply guess the right function.

Green's Function in 2D is something like ##G(x,y)=\frac{1}{4\pi}ln(x^2+y^2)##, but in my case having two electrodes at points ##(\pm a,0)## and knowing that my function has to be ##0## in infinity, it HAS to look similar to this:

##G(x,y)=G_1(x,y)-G_2(x,y)=\frac{1}{4\pi}ln((x-a)^2+y^2)-\frac{1}{4\pi}ln((x+a)^2+y^2)=\frac{1}{4\pi}ln(\frac{(x-a)^2+y^2}{(x+a)^2+y^2})##

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This is almost great, because ##G(\pm \infty, \pm \infty)=0## but sadly ##G(\pm a, 0)## will NEVER be ##\frac U 2## because in point ##(\pm a, 0)## my function has a pole and therefore goes towards ##\pm \infty##.

So my idea to approximate my electrodes as point charges may not be the best one, therefore I defined a radius ##R## of the electrodes to move away from the pole. This helps a bit, but maybe not enough. My new function therefore looks something like:

##\left\{\begin{matrix}
\frac U 2, (x,y)\in K((a,0),R)\\
-\frac U 2,(x,y)\in K((-a,0),R)\\
\frac{1}{4\pi}ln(\frac{(x-a)^2+y^2}{(x+a)^2+y^2}),\text{For all other (x,y)}
\end{matrix}\right.##

with boundary conditions ##G(\pm \infty, \pm \infty)=0## but also ##G((x,y)\in K((a,0),R))=\frac U 2## and ##G((x,y)\in K((-a,0),R)=-\frac U 2##. Well, this is to me a bit hard to solve (actually, I have no idea how to do it), so I tried to say that ##R<<a## or even better ##R<<1## which can approximate my boundary conditions to ##G(a-R,0)=\frac U 2## and ##G(-a+R,0)=-\frac U 2##.

However, this limits me to only certain radius of electrodes. Therefore I seriously doubt my method is ok. Because from conditon ##G(a-R,0)=\frac{1}{2\pi}ln(\frac{R}{R-2a})=\frac U 2## I get an equation for radius ##R##:
##R(a,U)=2a\frac{1}{1-exp(-\pi U)}##

Speaking as a really stupid person: This confuses me. Why would the radius of my electrodes have a minimum value? My electrodes are as big as they are. Why is my radius a function of ##a## and ##U##? I would really like to get a second opinion about that.

Also, I am sure this is wrong because my radius rapidly approaches to a point where ##R<<a## is no longer true!
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(Red dashed lines are ##2a##, the ##x## axis is voltage ##U## and the blue line is radius ##R##. Picture is therefore for three different values of ##a##)
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Also 3D

So my problems are:
1. Is this wrong? If yes, why?
2. How do I proceed?

In case nobody understands my crazy English here...: My problem is to guess a function that satisfies Laplace's equation, is ##0## at all possible infinities and has a value of ##\pm \frac U 2## at electrodes.
I assume is has to look something like ##\frac{1}{4\pi}ln(\frac{(x-a)^2+y^2}{(x+a)^2+y^2})## but this function has to be somehow manipulated in order to be ##\pm \frac U 2## in point ##(\pm a,0)##. My question: How?
 
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Nevermind, the solution is really simple. :)

You just have to put another constant in front of the logarithm, than everything works perfectly.
The constant is than a function of ##a##, ##U## and ##R##. Which makes sense!

Thanks, for all the help! :D
 
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