Find Magnitude of Buoyant Force on Boat in Water

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The discussion revolves around calculating the magnitude of the buoyant force acting on a boat in water, given various forces at play, including the force exerted by a worker using a pole and the drag force acting on the boat. The subject area includes concepts from fluid mechanics and forces.

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  • Participants discuss resolving the force from the pole into its x and y components and how these components interact with the buoyant force. Questions arise regarding the correct interpretation of forces acting on the boat and the relationship between the vertical component of the pole's force and the buoyant force.

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Participants are exploring different approaches to calculate the buoyant force, with some suggesting to consider the vertical component of the pole's force and the weight of the boat. There is a recognition of differing interpretations and calculations, with some participants expressing confusion over their results compared to expected values.

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There is mention of constraints regarding the textbook's treatment of buoyant force, which may not align with the current chapter's focus. Additionally, the lack of displacement information is noted, which could impact the calculations related to buoyancy.

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Hello, I am having with this ( actually) kinda easy problem. I don't know how to approach it.



There's a worker poling a boat. He pushes parallel to the length of the light pole, exerting on the bottom of the lake a force of 240 N. Assume the pole lies in the vertical plane containing the boat's keel.
At one moment, the pole makes an angle of 35 degrees with the vertical and the water exerts a horizontal drag force of 47.5 N on the boat, opposite to its forward velocity magnitude 0.857 m/s. Total mass of the boat is 370 kg.

The water exerts a buoyant force vertically upward on the boat. Find the magnitude of this force.



I've been trying to find an equation to get started, but I have no idea.
 
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Resolve the force provided by the pole into x,y components.

Then look at the forces on the boat. How will the vertical component of the poleman's force affect the buoyant force provided by the water?
 
LowlyPion said:
Resolve the force provided by the pole into x,y components.

Then look at the forces on the boat. How will the vertical component of the poleman's force affect the buoyant force provided by the water?

I thought about that too, but can't find the right answer.

Vertical would be the 240 N ( cos, I think) and horizontal would be the drag force of 47.N ( sin). Is that what you mean?
 
XodoX said:
I thought about that too, but can't find the right answer.

Vertical would be the 240 N ( cos, I think) and horizontal would be the drag force of 47.N ( sin). Is that what you mean?

Cos35 is the correct vertical component of the 240 N force. So how many N is the boat? And then what is the net?
 
Ok, I think I used a slightly different approach. Now I just need to calculate the buoyant force. I don't know how to do this for this problem. The book deals with the buoyant force several chapters after the one we are doing right now.
 
XodoX said:
Ok, I think I used a slightly different approach. Now I just need to calculate the buoyant force. I don't know how to do this for this problem. The book deals with the buoyant force several chapters after the one we are doing right now.

Look they don't give you displacement to figure the weight of the water displaced. It's not needed. No need to get chapters ahead.

Make a diagram of the boat. There are 2 forces holding the boat up. The water (aka buoyant force) and the pole (the vertical component of the 240 N the guy is pushing down with.)

Like I said before, just figure the net ... weight - vertical component.
 
I still don't get that. Originally I thought I could do it like this...

Vertical component of the 240 N force (up) - Weight of boat (down) + Buoyancy force (up) = 0

But this all will not get me the right result. It's supposed to be 3.43 KN...
 
Why don't you show your calculation then for that equation?
 
I don't understand why is doesn't work for you since it works really well for me...

But my answer in part b isn't the same as in the book and I'm wondering why.

The question is: Model the forces as constant over a short interval of time to find the velocity of the boat 0.450 s after the moment described.

First, I used my x components to find the acceleration.
After, I used the formula Vf=Vi+at.

My answer is 0.914 and the real answer is 0.967.

According to me, my mistake must be in my calculation of the acceleration.

Here is what I've done:

F=ma
Fwater/horizontal=ma

Is that right?
 
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What is the equation for total buoyant force for a volume that changes as it ascends to the surface, like an air bubble?
 

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