Find Points on 2x^3 + 2y^3 -9xy = 0 Curve

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The problem involves finding points on the curve defined by the equation 2x3 + 2y3 - 9xy = 0 where horizontal and vertical tangent lines occur. The discussion centers around the differentiation of this implicit function to identify conditions for tangent lines.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are attempting to differentiate the given equation to find the derivative dy/dx, exploring how to set the numerator and denominator of the derivative to zero to identify horizontal and vertical tangents. Some participants are questioning the steps taken in the differentiation process and discussing the implications of the results.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on how to proceed with the differentiation and the conditions for tangent lines. There is an acknowledgment of different approaches to the derivative, but no consensus has been reached on the final points of interest on the curve.

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Participants are working within the constraints of implicit differentiation and are focused on identifying specific conditions for tangent lines without providing complete solutions. There is a reference to a related discussion thread, indicating that this topic may have been explored previously.

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Homework Statement




Find all points on the curve 2x^3 + 2y^3 -9xy= 0 where you will have a horizontal and vertical tangent lines.

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2x^3 + 2y^3 -9xy= 0

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6x^2+6y^2dy/dx - (9y +9x dy/dx)=0
6x^2 + 6y^2dy/dx - 9y -9x dy/dx=0
6y^2dy/dx-9xdy/dx=9y-6x^2
dy/dx= (9y-6x^2)/(6y^2-9x)
 
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2x3 + 2y3 - 9xy = 0

To find the lines tangent to this curve, take the derivative:

6x2 + 6y2\frac{dy}{dx} - 9y - 9x\frac{dy}{dx} = 0

2x2 - 3y = 3x\frac{dy}{dx} - 2y2\frac{dy}{dx}

(2x2 - 3y) / (3x - 2y2) = \frac{dy}{dx}

It is now merely a matter of setting the denominator equal to zero to find the vertical tangent lines, and the numerator equal to zero to find the horizontal tangent lines.

Remember, when the denominator of the derivative equals zero, the derivative goes to infinity, and therefore the slope it represents also goes to infinity. When the derivative equals zero, the slope it represents on the original curve is also zero - which means it is horizontal.

You're on the right track - now finish the job! :-)
 
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aizeltine, the only difference between your derivative and Underhills is that he has factored a "3" out of both numerator and denominator and canceled.
 

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