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The discussion focuses on calculating the normal force and the rate of speed change for a slider moving along a curved bar. The normal force exerted by the rod on the slider was determined to be 6.383 lbf, while the tangential acceleration was calculated as -16.58 ft/sec², indicating the slider is slowing down. The participants clarified the roles of radial and tangential forces, emphasizing the importance of understanding the direction of acceleration. The final answers were confirmed as correct, highlighting the effectiveness of collaboration in solving the problem. The discussion illustrates the application of physics principles in analyzing motion along a curved path.
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A 2.4-lb slider is propelled upward at A along the fixed curved bar which lies in a vertical plane. If the slider is observed to have a speed of 11.3 ft/sec as it passes position B, determine (a) the magnitude N of the force exerted by the fixed rod on the slider and (b) the rate at which the speed of the slider is changing (positive if speeding up, negative if slowing down). Assume that friction is negligible.


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For part a I drew a FBD of the slider and assigned the normal and tangential axes. I can also see that the normal force and the weight of the slider are the only forces acting on the slider.

ƩFen = man = N - mgcos(31)

m(v2/r) = N - mgcos(31)

I then solved for N and I get 6.383 lbf

I'm unsure about part b. Any suggestions?
 

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Northbysouth said:
ƩFen = man = N - mgcos(31)

m(v2/r) = N - mgcos(31)
What's the direction of the radial acceleration? (Check your signs.)

I'm unsure about part b. Any suggestions?
What force acts tangentially?
 
When you say radial acceleration are you referring to the normal acceleration? I don't quite see the point you're making.

The force acting tangentially would be:

F=ma

so it would be the tangential acceleration*mass.
 
Northbysouth said:
When you say radial acceleration are you referring to the normal acceleration? I don't quite see the point you're making.
You can call it the normal acceleration if you like. Which way does it point? Towards the center or away? Which way does the radial component of gravity point?

The force acting tangentially would be:

F=ma

so it would be the tangential acceleration*mass.
Well, sure. But the tangential acceleration is what you need to find. So what is the tangential force?
 
You can call it the normal acceleration if you like. Which way does it point? Towards the center or away? Which way does the radial component of gravity point?

Oh, the positive normal axis points towards the center of the curve, so it should be:

ƩFen = mgcos(31) - N = mv2/r

N = mgcos(31) - mv2/r

N = -2.2688 lbf

Well, sure. But the tangential acceleration is what you need to find. So what is the tangential force?

Correct me if I'm wrong:

ƩFet = mat = -mgsin(31)

Solving for at = -gsin(31)

at = -32.2*sin(31)

at = -16.58 ft/sec2

I've just checked my answers with the system and it says they're correct.

Thanks for your help Doc Al. The second part was a lot more straight forward than I thought.
 
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