Find the moment of inertia of a solid sphere.

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The discussion focuses on calculating the moment of inertia of a solid sphere about a tangential axis using the formula Icm = Integral of r^2 dm. The user initially sets up the problem using an infinitesimal mass element but arrives at an incorrect coefficient of 3/5 instead of the expected 2/5. The key issue identified is a misunderstanding of the variable "r," which should represent the perpendicular distance from the mass element to the axis of rotation, not the distance from the mass element to the origin. It is emphasized that different mass elements of the shell are at varying distances from the axis, complicating the calculation. The conversation highlights the importance of correctly interpreting the variables in the moment of inertia formula.
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Homework Statement



Beginning with Icm = Integral of r^2 dm from r1 to r2, find the moment of inertia of a solid sphere about any tangential axis.



Homework Equations



Icm = Integral of r^2 dm

The Attempt at a Solution



I set up the infinitesimally mass of an infinitesimally thin "shell" of the sphere:

dm = 4ρπr2 dr

And then solved for the moment of inertia:

I = ∫r2dm

= ∫r2(4ρπr2 dr)

= 4ρπ∫r4 dr

= (4/5)ρπr5

And solving for ρ we get the following:

ρ = M/((4/3)πr3).

Substituting that into the previously solved equation for I, I get the following:

I = (3/5)Mr3.

What am I doing wrong? I know the formula involves a coefficient of 2/5, not 3/5, but I can't find my problem.

Thank you in advance!
 
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I saw that, the only issue is I am supposed to start with the above formula. Icm = Integral of r^2 dm
 
Squizzel said:
I saw that, the only issue is I am supposed to start with the above formula. Icm = Integral of r^2 dm

I believe your problem is that you are misinterpreting the meaning of "r" in Icm = Integral of r^2 dm. It does not represent the distance from the mass element dm to the origin of your coordinate system. Rather it represents the perpendicular distance from dm to the axis of rotation. So, if the axis of rotation is the z-axis, then r is the distance from dm to the z-axis.

That's why it's preferable to write r_{\bot} as in the link that azizlwl gave.

You can't find Icm of the sphere by doing a whole shell at a time, because different mass elements of the shell are at different distances from the axis of rotation.
 
Squizzel said:

Homework Statement



Beginning with Icm = Integral of r^2 dm from r1 to r2, find the moment of inertia of a solid sphere about any tangential axis.

Homework Equations



Icm = Integral of r^2 dm

The Attempt at a Solution



I set up the infinitesimally mass of an infinitesimally thin "shell" of the sphere:

dm = 4ρπr2 dr

And then solved for the moment of inertia:

I = ∫r2dm

= ∫r2(4ρπr2 dr)

= 4ρπ∫r4 dr

= (4/5)ρπr5

And solving for ρ we get the following:

ρ = M/((4/3)πr3).

Substituting that into the previously solved equation for I, I get the following:

I = (3/5)Mr3.

What am I doing wrong? I know the formula involves a coefficient of 2/5, not 3/5, but I can't find my problem.

Thank you in advance!
The problem asks you to "find the moment of inertia of a solid sphere about any tangential axis."

I assume that you are not allowed to use the parallel axis theorem for this.
 
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