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The discussion revolves around finding the position of a man in a system that is in balance, involving concepts of torque and forces. The problem is situated within the context of mechanics, specifically dealing with equilibrium conditions.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to set up equations based on torque and forces but expresses difficulty in isolating the variable ##x## due to multiple unknowns. Some participants question the validity of the force equation used and suggest reconsidering the reference point for torque calculations.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing hints and questioning the setup of the equations. There is no explicit consensus yet, but guidance has been offered regarding the choice of reference points for torque analysis.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of the problem, including the presence of multiple forces acting on the system and the need for clarity in the equations used. There is an indication of potential confusion regarding the forces involved.

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Homework Statement


From the diagram below find the position of the man (##x##) if the system is in balance. Total length is ##L## and the man is distance ##x## from one end.

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3. The Attempt at a Solution [/B]
I know that the system must be in balance if all the torque and all the forces equate to zero. That said i tried this:
The left tension force i name ##T_1## and the right ##T_2##. And i take the right point as reference point.
##\sum M=T*L-mg\frac{L}{2}-Mg(L-x)=0##
##\sum F=T+F-(m+M)g=0##
These equation i know but still cnat express ##x## as i have too many unknowns. Could i eliminate something here?
 

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Hint: Look at the force equation for the lower pulley and pick a smart reference point for your torque computation.
 
Orodruin said:
Hint: Look at the force equation for the lower pulley and pick a smart reference point for your torque computation.
That force should equal the tension on the right, right? I picked a reference point to the right so it an be lost. Can you provide another hunt so i can see what you mean?
 
I think there is something wrong with your sum of forces equation.
 
doktorwho said:
That force should equal the tension on the right, right?
Which force? There are three forces acting on that pulley.
 

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