Find Velocity and Time from an Acceleration vs Time Graph

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The discussion focuses on determining the maximum speed and stopping time of a rocket car based on its acceleration vs time graph. The car accelerates at 6 m/s² for 15 seconds, reaching a maximum speed of 90 m/s before the brakes are applied. To find the stopping time, participants discuss calculating the area under the curve of the graph, specifically using the area of a triangle to represent deceleration. The final calculations involve expressing the height of the triangle in terms of its base, leading to the conclusion that the total time until the car stops is approximately 33 seconds. The collaborative effort highlights the importance of understanding the relationship between acceleration, velocity, and time in physics.
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Homework Statement


The rocket car is subjected to a constant acceleration of Ac = 6 m/s^2 until T1 = 15 s.
The brakes are then applied which causes a deceleration at the rate shown until the car stops. Determine the maximum speed of the car and the time T when the car stops.

Homework Equations


Area of Rectangle = L x W
Area of a Triangle = 1/2(b)(h)

The Attempt at a Solution


So I know that the area under the curve for an acceleration vs time graph would represent the velocity, but without having what the final time T was or what the final acceleration was, I'm not sure how to go about it. I know that at 15 seconds, the velocity is 90 m/s and that's about it.

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Any help would really be appreciated!
 
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Are you asking about the first part of the question: getting the maximum speed? If so, at what time does maximum speed occur? Before the brakes are applied, after the brakes are applied, or at the instant the brakes are applied?
 
I would say before the brakes, so that must mean that the 90 m/s IS the maximum speed that car attains.

Is that correct?
 
Yes, the car is picking up speed all the way until the brakes are applied. So, maximum speed occurs at t = 15 s.
 
Okay that just leaves me with finding the time at which it stops. So that means the velocity should equal zero which means that the area of the triangle should also be equal to 90 which I think might help, how exactly would I go about finding the time?
 
CGI said:
So that means the velocity should equal zero which means that the area of the triangle should also be equal to 90
Good!
how exactly would I go about finding the time?
Note the little triangle with sides of ratio 1 to 2.
 
Oh I forgot to ask about that! Unfortunately, I'm not entirely sure about what that means..
 
CGI said:
Oh I forgot to ask about that! Unfortunately, I'm not entirely sure about what that means..
It allows you to get the slope of this part of the acceleration graph.
 
Okay, so the slope is rise over run, which would mean that the slope here is 1/2 right? But I'm not sure how I would use that to get the time :confused:
 
  • #10
Try to write an expression for the area of the triangle of the graph in terms of the time interval Δt (between t1 and t).
 
  • #11
Hmmm.. it seems like the only thing I can think of is the integral from t1 to t of the area of the triangle is equal to the velocity. Is that in the right direction?
 
  • #12
CGI said:
Hmmm.. it seems like the only thing I can think of is the integral from t1 to t of the area of the triangle is equal to the velocity. Is that in the right direction?
Yes. And the integral is just the area of the triangle. You are ultimately looking for the base of that triangle. Can you express the height of the triangle in terms of the base? You can use similar triangles with one triangle being the little triangle with sides 1 and 2.
 
  • #13
Would the height just be equal to half the base?
 
  • #14
Yes.
 
  • #15
Okay, so the integral would be:

90 = integral of b^2/4dt from 15 to t? Which becomes b^3/12t?
 
  • #16
CGI said:
Okay, so the integral would be:

90 = integral of b^2/4dt from 15 to t? Which becomes b^3/12t?

b^2/4dt is the integral (i.e., the area of the triangle).
 
  • #17
Okay so something more like this?

90 = (t^2 - 225)/4 in which case, t = 24.2?
 
  • #18
I should have said that b2/4 is the area (instead of b2/4 dt). You know what this area must equal. So, what do you get for the base b?
 
  • #19
I get 18.97 for the b. Which would be the answer for t right?
 
  • #20
I agree with your answer for b (assuming you're still using the second as a unit of time). But I don't agree with your answer for the instant of time t when the car comes to rest.
 
  • #21
Wait! But that's just the base of the triangle..
Wouldn't t be the 15 + 18.97?
 
  • #22
Yes. Don't forget the units.
 
  • #23
Wow! Thank you so much! I don't understand why that took me so long, but I appreciate all the help today!
 
  • #24
OK. Good work.
 
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