Find Velocity of Centripetal Ball Before Swing Out

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To find the velocity of a ball just before it swings out, the maximum tension in the vein, which is 300N, serves as the maximum centripetal force. The centripetal force can be calculated using the formula Fc = mv^2/r, where m is the mass of the ball (1.2kg) and r is the length of the vein (0.8m). By rearranging the formula, the maximum velocity can be determined with v = sqrt(300R/m). The discussion also touches on the role of tension and gravity in a free body diagram, confirming that the problem can be simplified by assuming the ball travels in a horizontal circle. Overall, the calculations show that the tension in the vein dictates the ball's velocity before it swings out.
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How do you find the place when the ball is about to "swing" out?

A ball is attached to a vein, which has max tension of 300N; and Hercules is swinging the vein above his head. The length from vein to ball is .8meters. The ball has mass of 1.2kg..

How do you find the velocity of the ball just before it swings out?


Please advise... Thanks you!
 
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What's a vein? Do you mean chain?

In any case, here's a hint: The max tension is also the max centripetal force that can be supplied.
 
The ball will escape when it's 'centripetal force' is greater than the max tension of the vein.

Hopefully, you know that Force = Mass * Acceleration.

If you know your max 'centripetal force', then you can calculate your max centripetal acceleration.

Knowing your max centripetal acceleration and your radius, you can calculate your max velocity.
 
Centrepidal force is = mv^2/r,

but i don't know my velocity... What is another way to find Centrepedal force?

The only force in the x direction is the Tension force in the x component...

But i don't know that.
 
Is this right? :


Fc = 300
mv^2/r = 300
v = sqrt (300R/m)
 
You got it.
 
aha! Thanks! That was sooo much simpler than I thought...

But... how can we do this based on FreeBody Diagram?

There's 2 forces: Tension and Gravity right?

And Tension has 2 components: x and y.

...

Any advise on how I should draw the free body diagram?
 
and at what position is the ball when it is about to fall out?

Do i use V^2 = V0^2 + 2ax? What is its final speed? 0?
 
I've been assuming that the ball travels in a horizontal circle. To give you a better answer, I'd need to see what this apparatus looks like. Do you have a picture?
 
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your assumption is right. it is just a plain circle.
 
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If the ball is traveling in a horizontal circle, and the tension in the "vein" (what's a vein?) is also horizontal, then the problem ignores gravity. You've already solved the problem.
 
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