Finding a continous solution to an integral

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The problem involves finding a continuous solution to an integral equation of the form f(x) = (x^3) + (1/2) * integral from 0 to 1 of ((x*y)/(y+1)) * f(y) dy. The context is within the theory of integral equations and involves concepts from metric spaces and fixed point theory.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the use of Maple for calculations and express uncertainty about the intended solution method. There is a suggestion to consider the fixed point of the function v(f) and the recursive nature of the problem. Some participants explore the form of the solution as f(x) = x^3 + Cx, where C is a constant, and question how to determine the value of C.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and the implications of the fixed point relation. There is no explicit consensus, but some productive lines of reasoning have been proposed regarding the structure of the solution.

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Participants note potential issues with the clarity of the problem statement and express challenges related to using specific software tools for calculations. The nature of the integral equation and the fixed point approach are central to the discussion.

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Homework Statement


find a continuous solution to the integral equation:
f(x)=(x^3)+(1/2)*integral from 0 to 1 of ((x*y)/(y+1))*f(y)dy, by finding a fixed point of the function v:(C([0,1]), d)-->((C([0,1]), d) defined by
v(f)(x)=(x^3)+(1/2)*integral from 0 to 1 of ((x*y)/(y+1))*f(y)dy

Homework Equations


d is the supremum norm.
d(v(f1),v(f2))=sup(x in [0,1]) |(v(f1)(x)-v(f2)(x)|<=(1/4)*sup(y in [0,1]) |f1(y)-f2(x)|

The Attempt at a Solution


it says to use maple to do calculatins. tried and failed
 
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Homework Statement


find a continuous solution to the integral equation:
f(x)=(x^3)+(1/2)*integral from 0 to 1 of ((x*y)/(y+1))*f(y)dy, by finding a fixed point of the function v:(C([0,1]), d)-->((C([0,1]), d) defined by
v(f)(x)=(x^3)+(1/2)*integral from 0 to 1 of ((x*y)/(y+1))*f(y)dy

Homework Equations


d is the supremum norm.
d(v(f1),v(f2))=sup(x in [0,1]) |(v(f1)(x)-v(f2)(x)|<=(1/4)*sup(y in [0,1]) |f1(y)-f2(x)|

The Attempt at a Solution


it says to use maple to do calculatins. tried and failed

Am I right this is complex analysis?
 
Susanne217- This would be categorized as the theory of Integral equations. Here, specifically, the theory borrows tools from the theory of Metric spaces, in particular the Banach Contraction Mapping theorem.

OP - I don't know how to use Maple, so I'm not sure how this question was intended to be solved. Though I will complain, the question could have been better worded, since saying "Find the fixed point of v(f)(x) " is exactly the same as saying "solve the integral equation".

An idea though: We know that the fixed point of v(f)(x) is the limit of the recursion f_{n+1} = v(f_n) with any initial f_0 \in C([0,1], \mathbb{C} ). I started with f_0(x) = 1. Then f_1(x) = x^3 + x(1-\log 2)/2. Repeat this a few more times, and you'll notice that the same integrals appear over and over, with only some constants changing, and we always end up having f_n (x) = x^3 + C_n x where C_n is a sequence of real constants (it's an n-th degree polynomial in log 2, but we don't need that). So then one could well conjecture that our fixed point has the form f(x) = x^3 + Cx where C is some constant. So plug this into our fixed point relation v(f) = f, and solve for the value of C which satisfies this. This gives you a fixed point, which you know is also unique, and completes the problem.
 
f(x)=x^3+Cx where C is some constant. So plug this into our fixed point relation v(f) = f, and solve for the value of C which satisfies this. This gives you a fixed point, which you know is also unique, and completes the problem.

Is this what you mean?...

1/2*integral (xy/y+1)(y^3 +Cy)dy +x^3=x^3+CX
 
Yes, it is.
 

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