Finding Angular Velocity and Tip Speed of a Falling Rod

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The discussion focuses on determining the angular velocity and tip speed of a falling rod that pivots at its lower end. The user correctly identifies the torque due to gravity and calculates the angular acceleration using the moment of inertia for a rod. The derived angular velocity formula is ω = (3g)/(2L) rad/sec, but the user expresses uncertainty about the implications of "falls without slipping." Clarification is provided that this phrase indicates the rod pivots around its lower end rather than its center of mass. The conversation highlights the importance of correctly interpreting the problem's conditions to arrive at the right solution.
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Homework Statement



A thin rod of length L stands vertically on a table. The rod begins to fall, but its lower end does no slide. (a) Determine the angular velocity of the rod as a function of the angle \phi it makes with the tabletop. (b) What is the speed of the tip of the rod just before it strikes the table?


Homework Equations



1) Torque = Moment of Inertia * angular acceleration
T = I * \alpha

T = Fdsin\phi



The Attempt at a Solution



I am not sure if this is the correct solution because I'm not sure if I'm thinking about the problem correctly.

We know there is a force from gravity Fg. It will depend on the angle of the rod with the table. This relation is given by Fg(\phi) = mgsin\phi.

so T(\phi) = mgsin\phid = mg(L/2)sin\phi.

now \alpha = \frac{T}{I}, so

\alpha(\phi) = (mgLsin\phi)/2I,

and we know I for a rod in this case is 1/3mL^2

so \alpha(\phi) = \frac{3gsin\phi}{2L}])

then I integrate the ang. acceleration to find the angular velocity from \pi/2 to 0.

I found \omega = \frac{3g}{2L} rad/sec .


I have good feeling I am leaving something out in this solution, such as possibly something to do with friction with the surface. I have a feeling the words "falls without slipping" mean something I am not realizing.
 
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I have a feeling the words "falls without slipping" mean something I am not realizing.
No, one correctly interpreted the "falls without slipping", which means that the rod pivots about the lower end, rather than at the center of gravity or point in between. One selected the appropriate from of the MI for this condition.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/mi2.html#irod
 
Ah, yes. Sometimes when thinking about more complex problems I start getting confused about the simple things and start questioning everything I normally know.

Thanks anyways.
 
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